Sign On: Farmer Officer Job Advancement/Retirement CEP Apex?

T.O.P SG

I've been trying to find out the below informations. This is what I was told by friends. So would like to check if its truly the case.

Say if i'm 20 this year, can sign on officer path and take Saf scholarship.
21yo I will commission as 2LTA
22yo - LTA

23yo to 26yo University, (direct entry into 2nd year Honours in NTU / NUS )

27yo - CPT 1 (4k-5k) read on mindef website.

CPT 2 ( anyone can advise on roughly which year and pay for cpt 2 )

31 - Major 1 ( 6k-7k ) 10years to hit major 1*

Sequently promoted to Major 2 and henta kaki.

Is all these info more or less correct ? considering if I promote as per normal and nothing go wrong along the way ( not high flyer ) And also, what is the retirement age for officer scheme ? I'm planning to sign on after my SAF scholarship ( Lms ) end after 6 years from the day i graduate from uni.
Anyone with experience can guide me ? sincerely need some help here.

alize SG

Skipping first year of uni is very unlikely, you will miss too much.

Farmer's highest rank is SLTC just before retirement (scholars skip SLTC, go on to COL).

T.O.P SG

Because i'm from poly, graduating with merit. So they offer me into second year direct honours. Sorry just to ask, whats SLTC ? 2 crab ?

kenn3th SG

Because i'm from poly, graduating with merit. So they offer me into second year direct honours. Sorry just to ask, whats SLTC ? 2 crab ?

2 Crabs and a Braid

Chris88110 SG

Unless you one fuck of a capable officer. Then you might have chance to get COL. I know of some of the older COL's not scholars. But your appointment usually something like Comd BMTC or something like that. But maybe you COL 3-4 years then retire liao.

alize SG

If only someone can shed some light on the pay rates for scholars and farmers.

Chris88110 SG

If only someone can shed some light on the pay rates for scholars and farmers.

Actually, I think pay rates are the same across the board. Thing is scholars get paid when they study and their study time counts as service time so naturally they get the increment. Plus those get get commissioned before they study get promoted while abroad as well. And they do advance faster so that also contributes to their higher pay.

alize SG

Not so. Scholars are on Administrative Service pay scales and several do indeed join the Administrative Service at some point.

For some reason, Mindef does not release pay rates for MAJ and above on their career website. I believe this is where the gulf widens.

Lokey SG

Just sign on!!

It is known that the SAF salary is 1 K to 2 K more than the market rate.

Why do you talk about cpt rising to major? Do you think all farmers by default will have a chance to be major? A major is actually a manager postion in the SAF.

Farmers do have less chance of promotion. It is because they are given a "flat" stable job to deal with. Since there is no change in their work scope, their performance is flat by default. Scholars are given projects to do. If their projects turn out well, then they will be highly recognised.

alize SG

Then when reach age 45 do what?

Li hao Lim Matthew SG

Then when reach age 45 do what?

retire

T.O.P SG

Retirement age is 45 ? If i'm in LMS, am i consider a scholar ?

T.O.P SG

Sorry a correction , i meant LSA, local scholarship award, the common one.

Rednano SG

Sorry a correction , i meant LSA, local scholarship award, the common one.

scholars officer scholarships:
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/content/imindef/careers/scholarships/scholarships/SAFOS.html

farmer officer study awards:
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/arc/careers.html#careers=officer&sub=nuturing-roadmap

all-time favourite related topic:
http://www.sgforums.com/topics/search?q=Farmers+vs+Scholars&commit=Go&type=topics

Farmers vs. Scholars
As with many militaries, there exists numerous rivalries such as officer/non-officer, combat/logistics divides, Army/Navy/Air Force. Fortunately, because the members of the SAF are thoroughly integrated into society at large, there are no major military/civilian issues.

Apart from such minor divisions, a more important dichotomy is observed between officers who are polytechnic or local university graduates (Farmers), and former scholarship holders who studied overseas (Scholars). This phenomenon exists because of fast-tracked careers, quick promotions, a dual-track career in the Civil Service after mandatory retirement offered as enticement for young men to take up SAF scholarships. While this state of affairs has existed since the Singapore government started giving out scholarships, the issue was mentioned in Parliament for the first time in a speech decrying the class-consciousness and social stratification resulting from the existing policies^{from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Armed_Forces_ranks}

alize SG

Ah, I'm glad I didn't take the LSA I was offered.

Lokey SG

Then when reach age 45 do what?

Usually, they get out earlier.

A boy has suddenly become your boss. Some mind, some don't.

Work is more than just doing work.

Li hao Lim Matthew SG

Retirement age is 45 ? If i'm in LMS, am i consider a scholar ?

you can be a security guard if you want