Enlist Commandos as an NSF: Self Express Interest @ CMPB?

last SG · 2011-05-31T15:06:05+00:00

I was referring to 300 jumping jacks in a row without break as warm-up.Quick of you to dismiss it as wrong information. Seems like you're no different from t...

cyberr1981 SG

Hi Sheradine, hope you're still there...

To put it bluntly, I wouldn't advise anyone to join ANY army in the world unless you're a masochist (a person who enjoys being controlled and physically abused).

Ignore people who tells you all about pride, honour of joining army that you're doing a noble task to serve your country - it's all bullsh*t!!!!

In fact, in civilian world, nobody will give a h3ck, nobody will respect you as soldier and will see you as "2nd class citizen" (when you're in uniform) and have higher expectations of your behaviour like "you're a soldier, you're a REAL MAN, you cannot sit on seats on the mrt/bus, you cannot take escalator, must take stairs"....etc.

A soldier's life is an underprivileged life, with lots of inconveniences, hardships and hassles. You will not have freedom to do whatever exercises you wish to, like in civilian life. You won't even have a choice of when to rest. When you have illness/injury, you will be expected to resume training unless you're dead. In ANY army, they don't care about your illness/injury unless you died.

And, it's not just about physical fitness. You must also be able to take great pressure, have great mental endurance and must not break down and cry easily. You must also be able to do intense and highly complicated military operations and must not screw up. Once you screw up any thing or make any big mistake, there goes your career in the army!

If you're serious about fitness and gymming, you should just stick to being an fitness instructor and DO NOT join ANY army!!!

cyberr1981 SG

That's your view (was it from personal experience?). I had a great time.

You had a great time?

Either you're brain-washed or you're just lying for the sake of looking politically correct...

Since you had such a "GREAT" time, you must have signed on as a regular right?

cyberr1981 SG

I may be seen as negative but the blunt truth isn't always positive....

Gedanken SG

You had a great time?

Either you're brain-washed or you're just lying for the sake of looking politically correct...

Since you had such a "GREAT" time, you must have signed on as a regular right?

Well, as it turns out, I had an even greater time at university, so I scrapped plans to sign on. Just as well too - the army certainly couldn't match my consulting rate of four grand a day, and a guy does have to stay in Bollinger and wagyu.

The funny thing, of course, is that I've gotten to this point because I outlast, outwork and out-think my competition, and that's all thanks to the training at 1CDO.

That said, of course I had a great time, so much so that I pop back into Singapore every December for a reunion with the lads.

It's obvious you weren't at Hendon - if you had been, you wouldn't be pouting now. It's OK - someone's got to suck hind-tit.

cyberr1981 SG

The funny thing, of course, is that I've gotten to this point because I outlast, outwork and out-think my competition, and that's all thanks to the training at 1CDO.

That said, of course I had a great time, so much so that I pop back into Singapore every December for a reunion with the lads.

It's obvious you weren't at Hendon - if you had been, you wouldn't be pouting now. It's OK - someone's got to suck hind-tit.

I don't think Bill Gates or Steve Jobs (or any successful businessman at the moment) had training OR even need to have training at 1CDO to be able to outlast competition for that matter.... By what you said, then all businessmen should be ex-commandos!

I have to put it bluntly to you - CDO training is redundant and unrelated to success of any businessmen. You had no choice because you got selected to be in CDO that's why you had to "come out positively of it" to make full use of it. Sheradine, the threadstarter here, have a choice.

Every year you are compulsory to return for ICT, it's not because you have great time.

I certainly don't think those people, who have life-long injuries OR even died due to CDO trainings, had a "great time".

To Sheradine: This Gekan guy paints a very beautiful picture of the army with his positive thinking. Being positive is good but being too positive it comes off as fake and politically correct and blurring the blunt negative truths. Do consider thoroughly before joining any army.

Gedanken SG

Blunt, blunt, blunt. You're just not very sharp, are you?

I'm more than happy to attribute my personal success to what I learned at 1CDO, but could you please quote where I said that ALL businessmen should be ex-Commandos? There's no such quote because you're making things up.

Let me put the right perspective on your argument. Being too negative comes off as an inferiority complex and a sad distortion of the positive truth. Just because you had a bad time in NS doesn't mean everybody has to.

We don't know each other from a bar of soap, but some of the guys on the forum know the story of my entry into Commandos well enough. You're right - I didn't want to go to Commandos at the time I got called up for the VA. I tried my best to not get selected, so when the interviewing sergeant asked me if I wanted to go to Commandos, I asked him if I had a choice. When he said no, I said, "What the fuck are you asking me that question for then?".

As it turns out, it was a major miscalculation because that was precisely the attitude they were looking for. I found myself in the company of likeminded hellraisers who didn't care what was done as long as the job was done. We made our own rules, ran our own show and achieved our own goals. So sure, I had a great time, even if it was by accident.

I'm just curious - what have you achieved with your life to date? I can't see how you would have done much seeing as how you're so bitter and twisted.

Anyway, while we're in the mood for being blunt, when it comes to Commando-related matters, I'm speaking from personal experience, while you're making wild postulations and accusations. I'll leave it at that and let the TS make up his own mind about who's got a good grip on things and who's off with the fairies.

cyberr1981 SG

Blunt, blunt, blunt. You're just not very sharp, are you?

I'm just curious - what have you achieved with your life to date? I can't see how you would have done much seeing as how you're so bitter and twisted.

You mean, all who went to CDO will always become successful and don't who didn't will be losers?

So those who are bitter and negative about NS will always be failures in life?

Since you deem I'm a loser, then why do you bother so much with this loser? Yes, I didn't go CDO and I feel I'm lucky that I didn't and I'm perfectly fine that way.

cyberr1981 SG

"who didn't care what was done as long as the job was done."

The same wouldn't fare well in civilian world where there're rules and processes to be followed. Processes and whether it was done properly/safely are also important.

No wonder so many accidents and deaths in CDO!

cyberr1981 SG

To Sheradine (threadstarter):

After all the exchanges in this thread, I hope you have an understanding how most armies in the world work:

The blunt and harsh truths.....
1. They don't care about your injuries unless you're dead
2. They don't care if you're really not coping well or tired unless you're dead
3. They don't care about safety, they don't care about proper procedures/process (in paper, they talk like they regard safety but it's all bullsh*t).

If you still interested to go cdo or even sign on as a regular, I sincerely hope you'll be lucky enough to ORD alive in one piece and then join the ranks of Gedanken to rejoice that cdo training is good. Hope you won't be unlucky to suffer life-long injuries or even die due to the harsh, relentless, unprivileged and merciless conditions in the army.

Ultimately, it is YOUR choice. Bless you, you need lots of good luck in the army.

cyberr1981 SG

To Sheradine again:

You see, there are also politics and "dirty play" in army, even worse than civilian life's politics because politics in army can cost you a limp or a life!

Rules in army can be bent against you to your disadvantages....

Refer to below thread:

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/431931

alize SG

The point here is that a positive experience is yours to make. It can't be given to you if you don't want it.

cyberr1981 SG

The point here is that a positive experience is yours to make. It can't be given to you if you don't want it.

Such words are nice to say, nice to read but totally unpractical in real life. Save it for poetry corner.

To be blunt/direct: whether an event is positive or not, it takes 2 hands to clap.

If 1 hand (army) keep on holding needle between fingers to jab the other hand (servicemen), yes it can still clap but VERY PAINFUL. And, you can still lie by saying that it's not really painful and say what's most important is the 2 hands clapped successfully <--- this is what most shallow "positive" people says.

Yes, I enjoy being blunt rather than to lie that I'm sharp just for the sake of being nice.

alize SG

Let me say that I tried my best to be posted to a slack unit, and I succeeded. I am PES A. I was accused of kenging every day and punished for small things.

Yes, everyone in camp was treated better than me. But I took it in stride and enjoyed my 5 minute walk from camp to home every day, and I got even in many ways. I went out at night and literally slept on the job.

No amount of extra can make that a negative experience as compared to a chiong, stay-in unit.

Many of my mates were from such units and made it sound fun. I agreed but I would not have wanted to stay in camp 24/7 forgoing the use of my dick.

I made this positive experience for myself.

cyberr1981 SG

Let me say that I tried my best to be posted to a slack unit, and I succeeded. I am PES A. I was accused of kenging every day and punished for small things.

No amount of extra can make that a negative experience as compared to a chiong, stay-in unit.

Many of my mates were from such units and made it sound fun. I agreed but I would not have wanted to stay in camp 24/7 forgoing the use of my dick.

I made this positive experience for myself.

in this case, you were still unlucky cos there're slack units and people are still treated well.

alize SG

in this case, you were still unlucky cos there're slack units and people are still treated well.

I am aware of that. Fortunately I got the slackest, stay out unit that allows me to sleep within 5 minutes of my house. Are you satisfied?

cyberr1981 SG

I am aware of that. Fortunately I got the slackest, stay out unit that allows me to sleep within 5 minutes of my house. Are you satisfied?

Which unit is that, may I ask?

So that TS can also take in as reference.

merkava4 SG

deployment is based on unit manpower requirements at time of intake....u can't choose or express interest....irrelevant.

cyberr1981 SG

To Sheradine (threadstarter):

Another "accidental" death in the army.... For your re-consideration.

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/432330

cyberr1981 SG

deployment is based on unit manpower requirements at time of intake....u can't choose or express interest....irrelevant.

This is where the authorities are wrong...

If people express interest to the "siong" units, they should allow. Why force unwilling people like Gedanken to where they don't like to go? Then the regulars would have an easier time with NSFs who are willing.

alize SG

I found myself in the company of likeminded hellraisers who didn't care what was done as long as the job was done. We made our own rules, ran our own show and achieved our own goals. So sure, I had a great time, even if it was by accident.

I heard that some of these "goals" are as simple as moving by night and showing up at a set time and place on an opposite end of Singapore (or somewhere in the exercise host country). Whatever the section does during the day (to include eating out, sleeping in a hide etc) is no one else's concern.

So "siong" units have their perks.

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