Brigadier-General (BG) Ishak Ismail

last SG · 2009-06-27T12:09:12+00:00

Hi All,This thread is supposed to criticize and comment on the recent promotion of Ishak Ismail. I see more & more irrelavant messages get posted up whic...

R3SsH|n SG

he what vocation huh?

Nikar 3 SG

Arapahoe SG

In time of War there will be a vertical adjustment those that make it will lead those who can't will drop out.

But

Recent years SAF have send out more officers and mens for oversea assignment, particularly in Afghan and Gulf these officers will gain experiences in both planning and deployment. I think SAF will continue to participate overseas deployment.

in years to come SAF top General would be better experience than the current badge.

It bring about a more serious tone to those who choose to take up SAF as career. It will slowly filter out those who can't for whatever reason.

Singmarine SG

I think we have to be realistic here…which general does not give command from his HQ & dun follow his men to battlefield? Even US generals command the Gulf War & Iraq War from the comfort of their HQ. Likewise those garang generals from PLA, DPRK etc also command from the HQ.

Arapahoe SG

i think what i gather was that most of our forumners are saying our generals does not have battlefield experiences.

command under stress and command under peace time can be quite different.

skythewood SG

A general chiong to the front line can only operate a rifle. A general at HQ can oversee the whole situation and operate an army.

Singmarine SG

I agree with skythewood statement. In fact, in a real war, the closer a general is with his men, the more danger he pose to them.

LazerLordz SG

This is probably why all PSO missions require volunteers. The sensitivity of sending NSFs for combat missions without their own permission is something we are probably not up to dealing with, at the moment.

Even many Americans were quite unhappy that their state National Guard (which are volunteer citizen soldiers) were federalised and deployed abroad for OIF and OEF.

However, I'm still optimistic that we are slowly moving up the ability curve, and that our regulars sent abroad are more than able to carry out whatever needs to be done.

Singmarine SG

insidestory SG

During the Gulf war, the real command of the battle is from the white house then to the pentagon & lastly the forward command is at saudi arabia. The rationale is that commanding from behind provide a wider perspective of the battlefield scenerio and better situational awareness. Imagine, if a general get killed while fighting his troops, do u think the entire army will be demoralised? How many lives will be lost then?

Fyi, my former battaltion CO in active days was a scholar also. He was a very young guy then certainly brilliant in his tactics and he formulate many unconvential tactics during our NSF ATEC. We achieved Redcon 2A in the end. Now he is the commander 9 Division.

Regardless whether he is a paper general or whatever, so long he can accomplish his objective is good enough.

I know who you are talking about. BG Tan Chuan Jin. Oh man.. he is just brilliant.

insidestory SG

I have a thread on him here. http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/362413

I_love_my_toilet SG

insidestory SG

ever saw a two bar/ who is a big name lawyer

in the legal world, dig trench

with resevist till early morning and buy breakfast for

reservist?

So what the big deal about that?

pardon me but your post reeks of sour grapes..

if this person is only a 2 bar, he is just a junior lawyer, not a 'big name' in legal circles, and for your information, to compare apples with apples, young lawyers earn less than half of what some of young army officers earn, and senior lawyers earn less than our SAF commanders earn. of cos we know from those people who know nothing about these things, they're easily impressed and swayed by social stereotypes about lawyers and doctors.

I hate to break it to you, but most of the non lawyer and doctors high fliers have earnings that completely obliterate their peanut pay.

insidestory SG

a male lawyer who finally finishes his studies and pupilage at 26, only starts at $3.5k, only the few on dean's list can ask for higher pay but rarely exceeding $4k. Even a kukujiao SMS earns much more than that when he comes back at 25.

insidestory SG

i think what i gather was that most of our forumners are saying our generals does not have battlefield experiences.

command under stress and command under peace time can be quite different.

They have no 'real' war experience, as long as they are good enough to fulfil what SAF is supposed to do- be too formidable for enemies to consider attacking us.

The one day Singapore is attacked and SAF is mobilised to fight off the attackers, is the day you will have this 'real' war experience of our generals you keep harping about.

Do you realise the irony of this? you're using the peace you enjoy because of them, against them to say they have hence, no 'real' war experience because SAF is doing what it's supposed to do. I'd love to see all of you except singmarine take up your SAR 21 and fight along for Singapore when the day comes, so that you can talk about the general's 'real' war experience, the one day if SAF fails to do its job.

Also, an ATEC mission is as good as it gets for most countries. And for the officers, it is war to them. It's their war against the other commanders.

Singmarine SG

monoslayer SG

marcteng SG

what is his educational qualifications? is he a scholar and studied in the top universities?

insidestory SG

what is his educational qualifications? is he a scholar and studied in the top universities?

from what i understand he is a farmer.

Singmarine SG

back den, all these were classified info.

I hope we appreciate that so long SAF do not need to fight a war that means SAF has already won the war. 10 years has passed & more information are declassified. Our unit has only 1 year left to MR but we will never ever forget the nerve-breaking experience we went through. When we return for every ICT, we will always talk abt this memories. Anyone still want to go real ops ?

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