OCS: OOC/ OOT; Recourse?

last SG · 2009-06-04T21:46:00+00:00

LOL, how true.2 gold bar it shall be then.

Huoyanjia SG

Was recently OOC from OCS due to medical.

Recovered now, but still on status. Recommended for recourse by PC.

However since OOC, life as a nobody is not bad at all. Gets to book out daily and doing some sai kang in aircon office.

The next batch of cadets will be coming soon and in a delima as to recourse or not.

Aware of the benefits as an officer during NSF and better recognition when out looking for jobs later. However, also heard of the many responsibilities as opposed to men during ICT. Some are saying the short period in authorities out weights the longer term responsibilities esp during ICT.

Is it worth to slog it out again and also have ORD extended or go thru the remaining days as a nobody or some small potato.

In CV life, officer or no officer, employers are more interested in the paper quali, ability to perform in the job and enthu right.

Looking for some advise. Thank You.

dkcx SG

Was recently OOC from OCS due to medical.

Recovered now, but still on status. Recommended for recourse by PC.

However since OOC, life as a nobody is not bad at all. Gets to book out daily and doing some sai kang in aircon office.

The next batch of cadets will be coming soon and in a delima as to recourse or not.

Is it worth to slog it out again and also have ORD extended or go thru the remaining days as a nobody or some small potato.

In CV life, officer or no officer, employers are more interested in the paper quali, ability to perform in the job and enthu right.

Looking for some advise. Thank You.

Rather than ask us, you should be asking yourself whether you want to be an officer or not. You will be the 1 who has to motivate yourself through all the tough training since we won't be the 1 suffering all the hardship etc.

Man, spec, officer all have their place in the army and you can't do without any of them. Do not take your current life as a norm for a man. If you do not recourse, u will be posted out, revocated and do shit elsewhere and daily bookout is a privilege not a norm so don't put high hopes on it.

will4 SG

Was recently OOC from OCS due to medical.

Recovered now, but still on status. Recommended for recourse by PC.

However since OOC, life as a nobody is not bad at all. Gets to book out daily and doing some sai kang in aircon office.

The next batch of cadets will be coming soon and in a delima as to recourse or not.

Is it worth to slog it out again and also have ORD extended or go thru the remaining days as a nobody or some small potato.

In CV life, officer or no officer, employers are more interested in the paper quali, ability to perform in the job and enthu right.

Looking for some advise. Thank You.

I think the rank u get in ur full time NS is not relevant when u look for a job later.

Rednano SG

ya... employers aint give shit about rank during ns time...

they just want proof that u had completed ns, thats all they want from the certificate of service given upon ORD...

Huoyanjia SG

Precisely the question, to go thru' all the tough training (extended ORD) or revocate and do shit elsewhere.

Yes, everyone have its place in the army.

Should rephrase the question as, is the quality of life as an officer better then man both during and after NSF?

Anyone who had gone thru' the whole cycle as a man would says, wish I had been an officer or officer who wish they had been a man instead.

Trying to weight the options.

Its not the lack of motivation but the effort to outcome. Since the rank plays no part in future job application what are the tangible benefits to slog it out again. For honour and respect as an officer or carry on as a man to fulfill the obligation.

Read elsewhere complaints of "the able do more" as the chinese saying goes.

dkcx SG

Precisely the question, to go thru' all the tough training (extended ORD) or revocate and do shit elsewhere.

Yes, everyone have its place in the army.

Should rephrase the question as, is the quality of life as an officer better then man both during and after NSF?

Anyone who had gone thru' the whole cycle as a man would says, wish I had been an officer or officer who wish they had been a man instead.

Trying to weight the options.

Read elsewhere complaints of "the able do more" as the chinese saying goes.

I've never heard of an officer saying they want to be a man yet . Ask yourself what you want. Everyone gains different sort of experience and sometimes army experience though can't be directly use at work can be an additional plus point for u in certain job interviews if its related.

Huoyanjia SG

Any relationship, as I will likely be reading law since offered a place.

Of course everyone wants to be someone, but as mentioned, taking a pespective to weight the effort to outcome.

Not an officer, not a lesser man, an officer no bigger deal since it is not any scholar.

Does the want equate to need?

Both man and officer is giving a service to the nation, thus why an officer?

dkcx SG

U seem to be against being an officer and trying to find people to back you up in that area. If thats your decision then just be a man and finish your NS service

Huoyanjia SG

On the contrary. Infact trying to figure out why not to be an officer.

Want to be one but is there a need to be one.

dkcx SG

On the contrary. Infact trying to figure out why not to be an officer.

Want to be one but is there a need to be one.

There is a need for everyone regaradless what position you serve as an as an officer u will understand how things work and the importance of certain things more than the men who generally juz follow instructions and do as they are old.

Huoyanjia SG

Thank for the positive feedback.

This is precisely the encouragement that will keep it going to face the challenges ahead.

More please.

dkcx SG

Can i know why u were OOC for in the first place and you sure it won't affect you again if you recourse?

Huoyanjia SG

Was affected by heat exhaustion. OOC by MO for light duties to recuperate.

dkcx SG

Was affected by heat exhaustion. OOC by MO for light duties to recuperate.

Heat exhaustion need OOC meh. Thought attend B a few days should be enough liao

Huoyanjia SG

Even the PC was shocked when informed.

supposed MO play save after many death recently.

This is also part of the frustration, just bcos of this, now if recourse need to extend ORD.

kopiosatu SG

my previous unit doesn't need officers

they are redundant and useless.

men run everything

kopiosatu SG

Any relationship, as I will likely be reading law since offered a place.

Of course everyone wants to be someone, but as mentioned, taking a pespective to weight the effort to outcome.

Not an officer, not a lesser man, an officer no bigger deal since it is not any scholar.

Does the want equate to need?

Both man and officer is giving a service to the nation, thus why an officer?

officer more allowance than lower ranks

officer serve more years during NS phase

so do want the allowance now or do u want to go back for ICT for more years?

Huoyanjia SG

LOL, this is also important to know.

Is it worth the little more now and take a lot less later due to distruption.

But, then again the 2 bar, is no money can buy, have to be earn.

There must be some man in the ICT who is some big shot in CV.

What's their take on this.

kopiosatu SG

there are people who are officers with office job

and a corporal who owns his own big company

your rank is of no use in the working world.

SAF may think u are an officer or leader

but if u can't lead, u really can't lead even if SAF makes you a general

kopiosatu SG

the only 2 gold bars you want in the real world is the one u put in a safe

not the friggin useless ones on your shoulders.

a sergeant can garner more respect from his men than some officers. as a leader, the thing u should be earning is respect, not the rank.