7 Core Values ?

marcos_123 SG

Today the SC made us chant the SAF core values again during water parade! Buey Tah Han!!! As Gen Y folks, we are resistant towards this kinda propaganda and how does SAF expect us to internalise the core values with this?! e only value i internalised is chao keng!

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Uraniumfish SG

It is propaganda. The government starts its propaganda in sec sch. (social studies)

Ah Chia SG

You should respect the SAF core values as you are a SAF soldier.

Man!x SG

After so long i can still remember the core values. I think i've been indoctrinated!

xtreyier SG

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Then what kind of 'propaganda' do you want?

This?- "Everyone owes me a living, I have the right to live as I want, to do as I please and to hell with everyone else, including my parents, family, relatives and friends!"

Ah Chia SG

The government starts its propaganda in sec sch. (social studies)

We must not confuse PAP with SAF.

I think more and more people despise PAP and they associate PAP with SAF; that is incorrect.

In some countries for example, the party controls the army as in China.

But here, the SAF is under control of state.

marcos_123 SG

To Xtreyier:

I am not arguing about the core values here.. think the basis of what it's trying to promote is awesome, but the method the saf is trying to inculcate these values into us is abit like brainwash right! have u seen them employing other ways?!

xtreyier SG

To Xtreyier:

Hey, I'm glad you think those values are awesome.

Perhaps you might have ideas on how it can be better employed so that we as a society can improve the system? It might not be overnight, but in time it may change for the better? Leadership by example and more perhaps? But it gotta start with you and me, now.

PS: To try to understand you better, if its the basis - recitation of the core values during a water parade - irks you, which should be held during perhaps a more formal occasion, then perhaps I plead an indulgence from you for an insight by me.

You've probably been out of the loop and the big picture on what's happening the past few weeks - Aware saga, plenty of bad feelings, Parliament re-convening followed by a Presidential address, etc.

So I guess your commanders took the opportunity to re-affirm your team's and everyone else's committment to our valued and precious independant society. Nothing wrong really with that if you believe in the core values itself.

Ah Chia SG

but the method the saf is trying to inculcate these values into us is abit like brainwash

Hello, it's the army dude.

Do or die, don't ask why.

Anyway, since you are in army, you shouldn't be thinking too much about these things.

octega SG

Dude, u have to grow up. Chanting the 7 core values doesn't necessary inculcate the values. It has the same theory with the national athem, your school song, etc because "I have to" not "I want to".

U must understand, there is a huge difference between real soldiering and real-good wayang-ing. Laughing

Herzog_Zwei SG

Duty is to the people of Singapore, not to the nation as the nation can fail.

sbst275 SG

if you do go think on another perspective, some of e values will again appear in your future working life

Rednano SG

if you do go think on another perspective, some of e values will again appear in your future working life

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dumbdumb! SG

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i'm not from SAF.

but what's wrong with those core values?

Rednano SG

the fact that is the organisation itself simply dont follow it anyway...

Herzog_Zwei SG

i'm not from SAF.

but what's wrong with those core values?

Because the first value is the one coined up by me. Originally, it's "Loyalty to Country".

Loyalty to country is useless unless the country serves its people. Hence the prime loyalty is to the people. But explaining to a bloody faggot, like dumbdumb!, who sucks his infernal god's penis is a waste of time. 国能亡，人不能亡!

dumbdumb! SG

Because the first value is the one coined up by me. Originally, it's "Loyalty to Country".

lol, loyalty to people.. ok.

then again, faggy, which people? PRs? or singaporeans? i think loyalty to country is alright. singapore is singapore. it's not that the country don't serve its people, but whether the ruling party is serving the people.

in a war against another country, the distinction is very simple, singapore vs ************, the core value brings to mind we are fighting for singapore, and don't backstab your fellow countryman by aiding the enemy.

so i think loyalty to country, regardless of the ruling party, is sufficient.

btw, regarding your 10 metres cock comment? that's your low self-esteem talking, my faggy friend. i'm sure everyone loves you simply because you've got a nice fleshy butt to provide cushioning. don't worry about your penis size. ;)

farham?

ClaT SG

I swear by God this sacred oath that I shall render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Führer of the German Reich and people, supreme commander of the armed forces, and that I shall at all times be ready, as a brave soldier, to give my life for this oath.

Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes Adolf Hitler, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht, unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.

dumbdumb! SG

now, that's propaganda. loyalty to only 1 man, which isn't the same as loyalty to country.

savvy, faggy?

ClaT SG

You know what name to change from Hitler.