Pre-Enlist: Official PES ?

marsattack SG

I just called up MIDNEF and enquired about my final pes status because i was given a PES D after my medical in Jan as i was required to go for a heart scan in March because my father had suffered a heart attack before. But my heart scan done at MMI was all clear and the MO said CMPB wld mail me the final pes results by first week of April but nothing came,so i decided to call MINDEF.

They said im PES E but asked me to log online to see my full PES results and its PES E1 L9, reason for this is i have suffering from anxiety and hypochondrasis a few years ago after some family incident.I was seeing a psychatrist at SGH and had declared that during my medical and the MO said he wld request for my file,review my case and then grade my PES.

But online,i have a feeling my PES results are not permanent.The following is written:

" You do not have any outstanding hospital appointment."

But just a few minutes ago ( like 3mins ago ), it was written smth like

1."My case may be reviewed by MCC pending the results of investigations done today'.

2."My case may be reviewed following reviews by medical offiers after reviewing the medical files from the hospital"

It was smth like that ah written,but now ive logged out and in twice but only thing there is " You do not have any outstanding hospital appointment." and the other stuff that i had read earlier is gone.

So can anyone advice me if my PES is permanent or still temporary?

Thank you.

marsattack SG

hey guys sorry sorry,when i click on medical status the following appear:

1. Following the medical screening at the Medical Classification Centre, you have been graded as PES E1 L9. 2. You may be recalled for further MCC review (pending the outcome of medical reports / investigations / specialist review). 3. Your PES status may be reviewed, pending the results of investigations done today. You will be informed if there is a change in your PES status. 4. Should you develop any new medical conditions before enlistment, or should any current medical condition deteriorate before enlistment, please return to Medical Classification Centre with relevant documents and reports, and inform us accordingly. 5. Excuses NIL MO's Recommendations NIL 6. Upon enlistment, please bring along this form as proof of any excuses issued. 7. Thank You.

Does it mean my PES is temporary or permanent?

Rednano SG

it is most likely a permanent status.

xXIron_fistXx SG

PERM mine gt state 6 months.

like that perm .

pls relax

Mine states C9L2 for 6 months lastime .

xXIron_fistXx SG

PERM mine gt state 6 months.

like that perm .

pls relax

Mine states C9L2 for 6 months lastime .

E1 and E9 got wad difference ?

Rednano SG

E1 and E9 got wad difference ?

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/122714

xXIron_fistXx SG

as a point of advice NS could be hard for P tagged personels ( psychological problems enlistees)

I was disgnosed with mental illness in NS

I went for PES C9L2 for high blood pressure (6 months temp was excused range/firearms temporarily for 6 months)

Later after diagnosis (C9L9 - excuse firearms stayin night duties ) unit that time

later after getting excuse , ppl outcast me even PES E ppl outcasted me

after being outcasted downpes to PES E9L9 after worstening

PES F in the end after worstening

This is true story

I even got excuse cohesion due to nullies in my unit.

xXIron_fistXx SG

even parade i got excused I am most useless NSF i think .

PES E9L9 that time

xXIron_fistXx SG

to me PES E9 E1 gt difference E1 can do life E9 cant so means PES E1 enlistee can do simple LIFE activities / exercise like briskwalk but trust me the difference is small.

Purplehaze623 SG

er to be sure whether ur status is permanent, check whether they noted any review dates on ur PES status slip.

simple, no review and anything noted for review means it is a permanent status.

Lokey SG

But online,i have a feeling my PES results are not permanent.The following is written:

" You do not have any outstanding hospital appointment."

But just a few minutes ago ( like 3mins ago ), it was written smth like

1."My case may be reviewed by MCC pending the results of investigations done today'.

2."My case may be reviewed following reviews by medical offiers after reviewing the medical files from the hospital"

So can anyone advice me if my PES is permanent or still temporary?

Thank you.

most likely is perm. unless it is stated that it is temp for xxx months.

xXIron_fistXx SG

I think it's permanent .

I hope u serve ur NS smoothly.

haha

gd luck

You may be directly enlisted ot u have to go tekong for induction.

good that u go MMI for heart scan you will be asked to go MMI PCC for review.

either SAF ward or PCC , both under MMI

PCC = psychological care centre

SAF ward = those sent for observation due to psychiatric problems or medical appointment , also gt day patient and whole day patient for those under observation

marsattack SG

hey thanks for the replies,long time nv used e comp sorry for e late reply.

I just got the letter today stating my pes status and its e same thing that is stated online,but they never write if its permanent or temporary leh.so once again wad they wrote is:

1. Following the medical screening at the Medical Classification Centre, you have been graded as PES E1 L9.

2. You may be recalled for further MCC review (pending the outcome of medical reports / investigations / specialist review).

3. Your PES status may be reviewed, pending the results of investigations done today. You will be informed if there is a change in your PES status.

4. Should you develop any new medical conditions before enlistment, or should any current medical condition deteriorate before enlistment, please return to Medical Classification Centre with relevant documents and reports, and inform us accordingly.

5. Excuses
NIL
MO's Recommendations
NIL

6. Upon enlistment, please bring along this form as proof of any excuses issued.

7. Thank You.

My friend said its temp and once i enlist i must go for a review and the MO wld see if give perm or temp but another friend said if the MO's Reccomedations is nth then sld be perm,any idea?

dkcx SG

Just wait and see lo. There is no specific review date given so its perm till the MO decides otherwise.

will4 SG

as a point of advice NS could be hard for P tagged personels ( psychological problems enlistees)

I was disgnosed with mental illness in NS

I went for PES C9L2 for high blood pressure (6 months temp was excused range/firearms temporarily for 6 months)

Later after diagnosis (C9L9 - excuse firearms stayin night duties ) unit that time

later after getting excuse , ppl outcast me even PES E ppl outcasted me

after being outcasted downpes to PES E9L9 after worstening

PES F in the end after worstening

This is true story

I even got excuse cohesion due to nullies in my unit.

I also agreed that servicement downgraded to PES C or E due to psychaitric problem will face discrimination in the unit and also at the future work place.

I got a fren suffering from anxiety disorder also downgraded to PES C n never got called back for reservist.

marsattack SG

yeah i know about the discrimination, i wld rather serve normal ns than suffer from it cos its a horrible experience,but some people,in fact 2 i know personally who have actually faked depression and gotten pes c9l9 and e,cos of ppl like em the genuine cases are seen as chao keng.

i was hoping for c9 or smth and not e cos of this but well what can i do.

xXIron_fistXx SG

my summary of medical statud before i go NS gt state following the medical examination you have been graded provisionally as C9L2 for 6 months.

urs should be PERM gt many cases of psychiatric problems are graded from C1 C2 C9 E1 E9 for me i am even unfit for life exercise.

My frenz depression C9L9 but also gt C1 to E9 E1 , how they do grading is from their medical directive.

I was downpesed to PES F no choice that time really very bad condition.

despite many excuses

1) stay in

2) firearms

3)Life activities

4) night duty

5) parade

6)unit activities

be prepared to go to MMI PCC for ur MA or SAF ward at alexandra.

xXIron_fistXx SG

the more excuses u have they sure bully u.

they buay song.

especially excuse stay in firearms , i have been verbally asaulted at the range day where all PES E and PES C L9 ppl are excused.

they laughed cos u cant go cohesion.

I did my service without slauting to any people , see i so useless but MO said no excuse salute cos like that army no rules/ discipline.

work my counsuellor said affect givernment only. not so sure.

xXIron_fistXx SG

but now i am out of NS i am ok le no need medicine.

but i have a very low self esteem.

it affects daily life haha

dkcx SG

but now i am out of NS i am ok le no need medicine.

but i have a very low self esteem.

it affects daily life haha

Self esteem can be build up. Just be happy with yourself and don't look down on yourself. What pass has pass so just look towards the future and stay positive.