Why NS? [ Pre-Enlist POV ]

last SG · 2008-05-28T13:35:07+00:00

looking at all your posts, i feel so guilty for downgrading temporarily from pes A to C2L1. i was supposed to be enlisting into commandos on 11th july but n...

dumbdumb! SG

so that we get to kill people we call brothers during peace time and enemies during war..dont humans get it by now??

hmm i think the answer is not to start a war, but be prepared for one.

it's not right to want to kill others etc. but it's not right to stand there and get raped also.

citymax SG

really tired reading the posts..my personal view is if you really put in effort during your national service, u will enjoy it.

if u have a negative mindset, you will never appreciate the efforts people put in.

thats all.Sianz...some juz like to complain but dont know how to appreciate.

Spent 2 yrs of your time to train you physically and mentally and you use your whole life to complain how come train you.

Fatum SG

I have always believed, that a person's attitude towards NS is a reflection of a person's character, and his attitude towards his careers and his life in the future ....

of course ... attitude determines "altitude" in life later ...

people with too much "me" in them won't be good team players in any organization, they'd never put in the effort if direct personal benefit is not immediately apparent ... as an employer, would you want someone like that ? ...

people with no fortitude for a little hardship in the army will give up in life's other obstacles too ... "it's too hard, too difficult, why bother, sure die anyways, sure fail anyways" ....

and for people who chao keng, nuff said .... judging from the post NS paths of many people I've met in the army, I think this does hold quite a bit of water ...

gigabyte14 SG

chao ah gua la ts

Q.C.Pak SG

NS turns boys to men....

Ah Gua to Chao Ah Gua...

CannyOng SG

I will say this kid haven't serve NS already chicken out... LOL!!!

wondering when u go in, will u wet yr pants anot? Give so much excuse abt not serving NS... I will say TS no balls. Cut off yr thing and be a kuniang la..

CannyOng SG

Double post

edwin3060 SG

Well, as you can see, NS certainly screws up with peoples' minds. Look at those who have served NS, at least in this thread. Look at how they have lost their sense of self and insist on the 'common good'. Look at how they have become so manipulatable by the government, believing that NS is all about protecting ones' family and friends when it's all about maintaining the stability of the corrupt administration. No wonder they're being replaced by non-brainwashed FTs.

Try not to lose your mind in NS, paradogs. Your 'self-centered' thinking is way better and practical than those communalists.

The whole concept of government is about the common good. Almost everything that keeps you alive now, like clean water and a reliable (if expensive) source of food, is because the government has created it for you out of nothing-- this is especially true in Singapore than in many other countries of the world.

So then, if you preach individualism and partake in the benefits that your government has provided, you are a hypocrite.

There is a reason why anarchists do not dominate the world today-- a people organised together ALWAYS do better than an individual in the long term.

dumbdumb! SG

So then, if you preach individualism and partake in the benefits that your government has provided, you are a hypocrite.

There is a reason why anarchists do not dominate the world today-- a people organised together ALWAYS do better than an individual in the long term.

sounds familiar.

i heard something like this b4: you don't sleep under the blanket of peace and security i provide, and then wake up the next morning and question how i provide it.

YUII SG

so TS, what's your point for starting this thread?

16/f/lonely SG

NS is a great experience.

Don't look at the war perspective, NS equips you with a lot of skills beyond combat.

So.....TS, you really know nuts.

dinky1409 SG

aiyah death also inevitable mah? so why bother go hospital if ur sick and injured.. just die lor.. waste ur parents money ony..

kcockicht SG

TS think the gharment will not think like he tinks meh? anyone can claculate stregth and numbers and landscale. no need army no need frwen ship with neighbouring coountries no need join ASEAN UN no need to make fwens with foreigners lah.

all the above don't have alone a small island can survive meh?

tkae the recent dispute we have with MY over the Pedra issue. I am not gloating over the outcome but if we have no realationships with anyone no ASEAN no UN no bilitarerla court sure with the dispute anyone can challenge us to war.

but why we go to court instead?

in a war if in my buddy system , my section, my platoon, my company, my battalion, my bridgae, my army got any soldier make this remark i shoot him first instead of the enemy. not than army encourage this type of disposition over soldier's behaviour but my personal preference to exercise communism amongst the ranks. death to anyone who disrupt or disintegrate the morale of the men and the fabric to the aim of national service.

kcockicht SG

I will say this kid haven't serve NS already chicken out... LOL!!!

wondering when u go in, will u wet yr pants anot? Give so much excuse abt not serving NS... I will say TS no balls. Cut off yr thing and be a kuniang la..

we should ttell the guy on school holiday that NS got night's off go geyland eat chick rice.

also go overseas training they provide condoms 3 pieces for you just in case we eat overseas chick rice.

also u want to put water blow ballon from conloms go ahead with a party man

rooki SG

The whole concept of government is about the common good. Almost everything that keeps you alive now, like clean water and a reliable (if expensive) source of food, is because the government has created it for you out of nothing-- this is especially true in Singapore than in many other countries of the world.

So then, if you preach individualism and partake in the benefits that your government has provided, you are a hypocrite.

There is a reason why anarchists do not dominate the world today-- a people organised together ALWAYS do better than an individual in the long term.

You crack me up. Tell me, how does paying high salaries to elites while letting the commoners get shafted by foreigners count as 'common good'?

Unless by 'common' you really mean 'elite', of course.

NS is merely a tool for corrupt politicians to manipulate male citizens, at least for now. In a better society, where citizens actually HAVE A SAY IN GOVERNMENT, all your reasons about common good and defense are of course perfectly valid. As it is, NSmen are currently little more than slaves under the iron yoke of the PAP.

Fatum SG

You crack me up. Tell me, how does paying high salaries to elites while letting the commoners get shafted by foreigners count as 'common good'?

Unless by 'common' you really mean 'elite', of course.

while you get shafted by UMNO in your country .... did you read what I posted ? ....

but hey ... of course ... you wouldn't understand .... you are here .... enjoying life under our protection, neh ? ....

16/f/lonely SG

You crack me up. Tell me, how does paying high salaries to elites while letting the commoners get shafted by foreigners count as 'common good'?

Unless by 'common' you really mean 'elite', of course.

If that's the case, the feeling of being under the yoke feels mighty good.

LazerLordz SG

When TS does a few modules relating to security studies, he will understand what the real world is like.

Sardaukar-Prime SG

Seriously,juet let Paradog serve NS first then let hin learn. The real world works based on self-interest.Institutions work based on self-interest.Why do you think we have power hungry dogs (cunning) like Lee Kuan Yew still in power?

Ns has its purpose.Part of it is to keep a leash on the male population of Singapore,but also as a way to channel our energies during that time from 18-21. It establishes a conformity and gives a common base and certainly allows you to bond with your fellows overseas.

It has its strategic purpose as well. Singapore has openly admitted a policy of deterrence.because as far as I see,if we engage Indonesia or Malaysia in a war,there will be heavy economic and political repercussions.We'll have a friendly eighbourhood jihad and then we'll really become an Israel of the East.

I'm not there to fight for abstract bullshit like pride or honour of the nation,because Singapore as a state seems to have little or no pride,the way our PM acts by 'angkat bola' for China or lifting balls all the time.Rather I'm there for the friends I met and made,because let's face it-

If there was a war and you deserted your friends for the sake of survival,would you be able to sleep at night later on?If you can then good on you,but I couldn't.I'd rather have a long sleep and wake up in the morning and not feel disgusted with myself.

That's all for my yake on it.

snowfoxx SG

malaysia and indonesia the two good friends. dun even need troops to attack, cut off water, seal off our ports and airspace,

you can hide in a box, but once these are cut, i think its very difficult to live past two weeks. I guess to protect singapore, i dun think it has much impact, they serve more than personal bodyguards, cheap labour to protect key installments, for the L regime...

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