30 SCE

Theballstopshere SG

How can 30SCE be siong now when they have even phased out the MGB?? What do you guys do now for training?

During my time there, we were made to do SOC whenver the "alarm" sounds. Tons more horror stories during those days. One of which is to have four people carry the MGB bridge part (top panel - about 200kg) and run around the gap.

SFI food sucks? I remembered lao lan cooks serving me and we have to bow our heads low and greet, and thank them.

Do you guys care to share how siong it is now? I am really interested to know... Laughing

confusedboi SG

wow u must realli be one of the lao jiaos

how mani years since u ord?
more than 7 years?
since u say u ate food from army cooks

Theballstopshere SG

Not very lao jiao. I was from Delta Company, ORDed close to a decade.

I dun like to compare as there is no ends to comparision. For example, I may have gone through a siong NSF life. But compared to my predecessors in the 70s and 80s (they hand carry the Bailey Bridge - heavier than even the MGB), I think I got off easier.

But you guys should really thank your lucky stars on the life you guys have now in army, or even in 30SCE.

In my days, 30SCE is considered really hell. Worse than even the commandoes. Nowadays all i hear about 30SCE is about how it has slackened a lot and is no longer as siong.

I heard you guys are even learning carpentry to make up for the lack of carrying bridges! Laughing

Do you know that many of us old guys are still having injuries sustained from carrying those bridges? I for one, nearly lost my left leg when I fell while carrying a bridge part in the dark.

Theballstopshere SG

And oh yeah, APB is a really easy bridge. We dun call it the "eye power bridge" for nothing. Laughing The only remotely siong part is the stores.

You ever built the MGB??

confusedboi SG

never build mgb

wow u must be close to 30 or in ur 30's liao
respect

Theballstopshere SG

Nah, nothing much to be respected over. It's just that I came into the world earlier than you. haha. And yes, I am close to 30.

There are tons more horror stories I can tell you about life in 30SCE but as you can see, your life in 30 is so much better than mine. But still, when I meet my own guys they will usually tell me they miss life in the unit. Imagine, no need to worry about money, food, or accomodation. All taken care of. Once you hit the working world, all will be different. And you have a bunch of tok cok brudders with you, have fun and shit together.

Trust me, treasure this time you have in the unit. Cos it will happen only once in your entire life. Very Happy

Spartans SG

30SCE brings back memories of my NSF day. ORDed for 3 years already. time flies.

argghh 30SCE is such a lousy camp. 3rd Sig is like heaven while 30SCE is like hell.

opps forget to mention I was from HQ S2 dept. The one and only combat fit dept in HQ. guess I had a slightly better life than my fellow companies camp mates.

Patrik SG

Laughing
My front part of nsf life is turn right.
My ending part of nsf life is turn left.
Mr. Green

5.56mm SG

Just gotten out of 30SCE 2 months ago.. lol

Was from HQ Signals (S2 is not the only combat fit department in HQ!)

HQ Signals doing all the guard duty for u all lucky bastards..

Oh and the place sux, good luck Razz

Spartans SG

opps I forget abt the Signalers haha. ok they are combat fit too.

oh ya during my time e signalers always siam guard duty. damn

consider yourself unlucky ba for not able to be a signaler in 3rd Sig.

khaiseng SG

field pioneers are not that bad now. no more MGB to build, only APB bridge which is crane assisted. Of cos still for the siong stuffs like clearing mine field, constructing obstacles, etc. but look on the bright side, u get to do things not many ppl have e.g. demolitions, etc

Ristar SG

demolitions is chicken feat. so wat if u do, so wat if u dun?

can boast abt it when u go uni "ooh, i blew up a few sticks of PETN" or "ooh, i blew up a bit of TNT"

izzit? pointless. in the end, still a pioneer only... give u at most CPL. and still sweep the floor everyday when in NS. Laughing

and, does 30SCE conduct L/F that often to be proud of doing demolitions?

LazerLordz SG

Agreed.

In the 70s and 80s, Engineers were one of the most siong units in the SAF.

A bit of OT,

My father was doing amphibious ops in Engineers in the 70s, (not too sure about the units then). POW training was included for his team, and they had to go for recce training and SAFINCOS training , under the Israelis and 1st batch of local instructors.

Their training was either on par with Commandos or even worse.

Everything was done by hand. Literally. You spent days in coastal areas, in water most of the time.

I'm not sure about today, as I'm from MES, but I can assume from the systems I've seen (was in maintenance planning), the grunt work has been readily sliced away.

leo-kun SG

i leave there 4 years ago and i miss the place...
this is where you build your brotherhood while going through the tough times..i really enjoy my time there

XtraTRestrial SG

eh is it true that the specs in 30sce are treated like men also?

LazerLordz SG

Not sure about 30SCE, but friends in 35SCE and 38SCE have told me of similar treatment. Laughing

Basically, you should not expect much. Unit specs have to lead by example, and that goes for going through everything with your guys and doing the same stuff as them.

agnelli SG

agreed. specs machiam worse than men, sign extras like free gifts

LazerLordz SG

Got Christmas present from the RSM too. Mad

wecak SG

anybody will be quite LL when first posted. but any engineer unit is a special posting, it's a special group where you learn things you will never get the chance anywhere else and anytime in your life.

any combat role is also shiong, i was posted to infantry pioneer during reservist. i think rifle man also very shiong, it is all different type of physical demand.

there is strong focus on discipline in the unit because of the complex task. also got to be on the ball when stand-by 24-7.

i rod in the 90's, can consider lao-chiao Wink . this is a very exclusive group to join. i must second the comments on life time brotherhood. we have get together every year. this is special friendship through our common experience there.

XtraTRestrial SG

hey, just finished the common engineer phase for specialist course, got posted as field engineer. likely to end up in 30sce. very grim about my upcoming ns life, but haiz, can't do much abt it. nice to hear from so many of the laojiaos before me though Smile

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