NS information for a newb

KenPlus SG

Originally posted by Obersturmfuhrer:

Apparently you dun even realise they have a [b]10% GST over in OZ.

It all depends on the superiors, Instructors, PS, PC and up the line. But most likely you'll be given "special" treatment in the form of sarcasism.

"Oh you're a graduate? Time to see if graduates can perform guard duty up to par"
Laughing [/b]

Is it 10percent!!!!
I still think TS should stay in aus,don't waste his time come back.
And to TS,undergrad really no big deal,singapore alot of undergrad,in army everyone is only differentiate with NSFS and regulars.You may even be order around by an old encik whose education level is much lower than you.

jianfish9 SG

18years? Why not apply for a citizenship there? Unless you are planning to come back to Sg to stay on.

Personally, I don't think 2years in exchange for a stay in Sg is worth it when you got an alternative, perhaps even a better one coz I now people that would give up 2years to escape from Singapore.

Anyway, why the hostility against Uni grads here. Its not like he is here to look down on you.

LazerLordz SG

It's not about whether he wants to stay on or not. If he does not come back to serve, and even if he has Australian citizenship, visiting Singapore on business in the future may land him in a huge problem, i.e arrested upon arrival.

The only case I've heard where the chap was free to go, was an American citizen, whom the US Embassy here raised a huge stinker for. This is just hearsay, btw.

Singapore does not allow one to give up their citizenship gained by birth unless he is 21. And NS Act comes into force when you are aged 16.5 for registration, and 18 for enlistment. This lag time of 3 years makes it impossible for one to apply for Australian citizenship, or even claim it as your primary citizenship because it is usually seen as the 2nd citizenship by our authorities, and therefore illegal to hold on Singapore soil.

This is why some army mates of mine had to come back and serve once they finished high school in either Australia or US. In TS's case, I believe he is under the old legislation where if you post a bond and apply to defer your NS till post-overseas tertiary education is complete, you're safe.

falcon88 SG

So just to clarify with you… even if I renounce my Singaporean citizenship and become an Australian I may still have problems with the government? i.e. I may be arrested if I choose to visit the country in the future?

falcon88 SG

Correct, I'm not here to look down on anyone. I have no problems with being treated the same as everyone else. I hope this clears it up. Wink

LazerLordz SG

Have you registered for NS at 16.5? Did your apply for deferment for your studies and was it approved? These two issues are very vital.

The thing is, I don't think you can renounce your citizenship before you turn 21. And you are under the SAF NS Act once you turn 16.5.

falcon88 SG

I don't think I registered for NS at 16.5. However, my applicated for an exit permit has been approved.

It reads: "...valid from xx/xx/2006 to xx/xx/2009 for residing in Australia, pending renunciation of Singapore Citizenship."

LazerLordz SG

Hmm. So you have notified MINDEF, and then they gave this to you right?

falcon88 SG

Correct. I received the letter from Ministry of Defence (MINDEF).

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