NS Rank Promotion: Why Reservist NS Units Refuse to for Men?

last SG · 2006-07-06T16:41:59+00:00

Is that because the degree holder is 23 years old, and the PSLE holder is only 12 years old?

insouciant SG

I think the current way of awarding ranks to soldiers today is wrong.

How often have we seen a bungling 2Lt or 3SG try to lead a platoon/section just because he is a "A" level or poly grad and thus "promoted" to that rank.

Then we also see super capabale LCPs who would probably make section commanders or better, because they have the common sense, qualities and leadership abilities that the men respect.

My unit also had a few "O" level grads who after army went on to do their degrees overseas or locally and became great success for themselves, establishing themselves as leaders of men.

I'm not knocking all the "A" level and poly grads. Many of you are success of your own right (you know who you are so you won't feel threaten by this). But the system right now is bad....

And really, how often do you see a LCP or private get promoted while in the reserves, despite the often stated "you can be promoted if you perform well during your NS training".

dragg SG

if you are a clerk you will be amazed what the SAF do for appraisals.

farking waste of paper and resources.

everything for show only!!!

Mad Mad Mad

mhcampboy SG

SAF has the fastest promotional rate in the world... Smile Smile Smile

insouciant SG

Yes, no one actually reviews the appraisal to do the proper promotion.

If SAF was a business, it would never do well.

dragg SG

we are a country with the most paper generals - all armed with academic qualifications.

i remember once during a Bn Recall Exercise my CO chided me for smelling. cb, he just came out fresh from a bath while we had to work our socks off. the academic bastard!!!

Mad Mad Mad

KenPlus SG

Army is a big rich never die organization,hence it don’t really care how rank is assign loh,in the end who suffer,well it us the taxpayers lol.

LazerLordz SG

I’ve come across a few LCPs who should have been 3SGs easily in NS.

monoslayer SG

u really tink the top ppl up there will bother abt these small issues? they r more concern abt when is their next crab coming or when is the star going to fall on their shoulders.. anyone wif a crab n below r jus slaves in their eyes.. tats saf..

insouciant SG

A few?? Many many lor. Rolling Eyes

insouciant SG

You kidding! Where does your CO think he was at? Spa? When got army guys don't smell one? Put on the uniform straight away start perspiring already.

LazerLordz SG

I mean my camp la. Laughing

insouciant SG

Your camp plus every camp or formation. Many, many lor. Laughing

Wonder when SAF will wake up to this underused and under appreciated talent.

mhcampboy SG

when there is war... Twisted Evil

LazerLordz SG

indeed.. they will only wake up when crap hits the fan. Laughing

monoslayer SG

when u die loh.. auto promote 2 ranks.. but must die in duty leh.. not while RT.. Laughing

laurence82 SG

i am not sure abt rank, i am more concerned for the process

here is one good case for study

my coy 2IC was a brilliant...graduate..but he is damn screwed up, everything go by the book without a teeny weeny experience on the ground, in fact, i think he screwed up big time in the office too, with many 'ideas' that do nothing but hampering our work

my OC, an experienced chap in the maintenance formation, and who has got into serious conflicts with the management in Bn HQ, started to realise something is wrong with his officers

so afterwhich he forced every OCS fresh grad to work on the ground for a couple of mths before they are allowed to step into the office

and the change was amazing

i think, most of the time, it would be taxing to change the system, like my OC who cant prevent idiots from going into OCS, but he can change under his charge without doing anything to their ranks

insouciant SG

You sure even then. Laughing

Just for the record, I'm not totally anti-SAF.. the organization does have their qualities.. espcially when compared around.. no corruption, decent logistics, etc.

insouciant SG

Gd one! Laughing

insouciant SG

Good for your OC. And I'm sure most of us have met a person like your 2i/c.

I'm not saying we should demote the "incompetents". But more of recognizing the real talent that already is in place.

LazerLordz SG

That's the kind of OC that should be standard issue. Have some common sense and ingenuity so that problems are cleared up asap..