302, Gays, Homosexual, Brokeback Mountains

boyish love SG

We know 302 = gay but what really is 302? How you can get the PES? 302 means no NS/NSF?

Tot Gayboys they like to join with fit army boys? see they naked. for example, a guy join tanned and toned girls' guides to live together weekly and work together, the guy is happy i imagine. Laughing

Ponders SG

302 is PES C.

302 is just an umbrella term. there's actually a few classifcations for these "non mainstream" people.

The GOM for this is entitled "Management of Homosexuals and Effeminate Servicemen".

302 is actually 30-2 which is a term to classify Effeminate personnel.

there is 30-G for Homosexuals.

and a few others.. but they start with 30-X.

They are further broken down into "types" so that their BMT bunks can be segregated and subsequent posting also.

General types are..

1) Effeminate
2) The masculine gay (usually the "guy" in a gay relationship)
3) Turned on by sight of naked guys
4) have sexual tendencies against the order of nature.

R3SsH|n SG

useful stuff…lol

Bryan^ SG

shld have got into tis section...when the Mo ask r u gay, i shld have sayang his hands n lick my fingers and reply in a soft voice " wad do u think handsome
"

^spidee^ SG

ROFL. Laughing

iveco SG

Butches can sign on as combat instructors but not fags. Double standards, huh?

Gordonator SG

there are actually quite a few gays in the army who serve like any other regular NSFs, doing guard duties etc. they just didn't declare to the MOs before enlistment. Laughing

Ponders SG

I even know of one "MO" who is rumoured to be 302.

He's never given CPT. Served as OCT but appointment as MO for his NSF.

he served NSF in white and black uniform.

kentheman SG

liddat can see more things ma..ahhaha

Gordonator SG

u will be surprised just how many gays there are in the SAF who didn't declare their sexuality. they could just be around you, the one u see at the cookhouse everyday, the person who sleep next to u etc. Laughing

martin_lim85 SG

wah like that not dare to go lcookhse liao

nismoS132 SG

my BMT bunkmate told the MO that he was bisexual but he still wasn’t given any special grading.

gnoik SG

Need evidence mahz! Laughing

Ponders SG

yup.

The "proper" procedure is that they have to declare and go thru a lot of intereviews including one with parents...

I used to have a "gay" section during a Pes C intake... they lead interesting lives.

one wears make up.

another was a makeup artist for models, so he gets to be in backstages during fashion shows and see those models change.

one is not actually a gay, but he likes to masturbate and never bathe. He was OOC'ed soon after and afterwhich dunno where he go.

one simply lacks testosteron and effeminate... i was told by his platoon mates he only have 1 testicle.

but really man.. that section was really hard to control... talk to them makes the hair on the back of my hands stand.

LazerLordz SG

I think if you can command this section effectively, your people management and HR skill would improve.

We all cannot be bigoted and choosy Laughing You might have a few employees in the future who are like these.

Personally, if we give each other mutual respect, I have no problems with them.

shade343 SG

Wait wait...is someone here suggesting that I can downgrade my PES status just by declaring a change in sexuality? Laughing

iveco SG

I dare you to say you got fetish for animal sex when you go MCC for pre-enlistment FFI. Twisted Evil

CKtalon SG

Isn't effeminate 30E while homosexual is 302?
30E can be Pes B, C or E depending on the level of 'jialatness'..

A person can be classified 30E and 302 at the same time..

Shotgun SG

lol! hold a chicken near ur groin when ur sgt walks in. den pretend to look really flustered, "sgt! it really isnt wat u think it is!!"

Ponders SG

Hmm.. i only read the GOM a few times... i konw there are few categories started with 30-X...

but definition of each one.. i wouldn't know.