SAF needs to adapt new unarmed combat techniques!

lwflee SG

Dude...it is very very very toned down. Not at all violent. In fact, it is so non violent and plagued with so many restrictive rules i wonder why they even bother to spar...

As i said in another thread, i was hit more times in my first lesson at a private MA class than i was ever hit by anyone during SAF UC trg.

chronicles SG

My god please stop talking about your weakness and expect sympathey, in a fight its technique that wins not strength!Unless you punch one time tired alreadu

fudgester SG

Lemme guess... That '88' in your nick is your birth year right? So you're now 17 years old and have yet to entered the Army right?

Chill dude... I also used to be very weak physically. You'll get stronger with time in the Army, that's for sure.

If anything, UC lessons in the Army are less like true TKD lessions and more like glorified breakdancing sessions. Rolling Eyes

SpecOps87 SG

Krav Manga shud be the way to go, no fancy moves,just pure all out fury.

crazy monkey SG

last time SAF one very violent no protection one the hokkien peng go all out to fight and settle old scores.

Shigemichi Take SG

Tot guards unit and gurkha contingents are learning it..

Gedanken SG

From the sound of it, UC’s turned into ballet. When I did it, they taught us all the stylised moves, but when the referee said “Fight”, it became like a street brawl with the only objective being to take your opponent down by any means necessary.

Tango12 SG

I thought we already mentioned about the SAF unarmed combat many times before in this forum.Why repeated it again?Anyway, if u ask for jiu jitsu/judo or aikido, they are all the ground fights or throws that u all have learnt in ICCT or ACCT (Advance close combat). It is just that they are the simplified ones to make it easier for the men to master. For TKD, u only learn it during BCCT in bmt.But also, it is v simple ones that is about white to yellow belt level only. The skill level of TKD in singapore is not very high too.It is more like a sport(Olympic TKD) than martial arts compare to TKD in korea.SAF dont realli have the time to train the men into gongfu masters.Like I sae before, the main objective of SAF unarmed combat is that the men are able to fight back bare handed instead of kanna whacked, but not definitely will win. U all argued about the kinda martial arts suitable for SAF is pointless. Cos NSF in the units do not have the enough time to master them well. SAF dont treat unarmed combat seriously also.

NathanG5 SG

jitsu/judo/aikido is very different from the current ICCT or ACCT..
wats make u think its the same?
they all look the same..in reality they are very deadly..

jiu jitsu = grapple or submission(not ICCT kind of submission..u dun really want to be the kena hold)

Judo = throw, slam, submission

Aikido(passive) = Locks, submission,throw(u dun even need brute force to lock or throw your opponent)

but still gotta agree wif u..wif all the above arts mention up there..the NSFs have not time to master..its only 2 years NS...

Tango12 SG

I know cos i got friends who are UCIs.They told me that their boss is ju jitsu trained and is one of the examiners for the jiu jitsu in spore. Like wat i sae, they modified it into CCT to make it easier. Its not easy to teach such a big class and they dont have time to master the real thing in such a short time.

Tango12 SG

NathanG5 SG

im train in both Aikido n Jiu Jitsu...
it dun really look the same to me..jitsu are very into submission..n i forget to add in my post..is Choke hold..
so if its modified..they aint the same anymore..dun think CCT are very effective..

i dun think class size is a problem..time is the major one as u have said..

stellazio SG

they should learn the offense of muay thai kickboxing cause most of the time it won't be 1v1..jiujitsu is good for 1v1 cases where you can choke or break his limbs..but takes long to master.. Laughing

Tango12 SG

Muay thai or kick boxing?Muay thai is powerful cos the boxers are trained to b able to take the blows.R u sure our NSFs want to be whacked to be trained to take the blows. They will sae u mad one leh.

NathanG5 SG

haha..yea..wait parents complain..

stellazio SG

aiyah they don't need to learn how to take the blows..just need to know how to execute it..and train against punching bags can liao..in the real world,one blow to the fatal part is all you need..Muay thai is kickboxing.. Laughing

Tango12 SG

Then isnt that same as wat the UCIs have taught us. Punches and kicks!!All the camps got sandbags rite?Or u expect the UCIs to ask all the 100 men to line up in a straight row and one by one to kick or punch a sandbag.Then it is up to u to go n train on the sandbag yrself. If u can master yr turning kick or 1 punch can ko pple then it is enough liao. The instructors have already taught u the techniques.It is up to you to go n try it out and train up.U muz have self training on yr own.Like studying, the teachers can only teach u, but u have to rely on yrself to study and improve also ma. Even the instructors teach the u best techniques also no use, cos u nv go n practice or train it up.

Rockhound SG

Krav Maga!!!!!

lwflee SG

I think the syllabus should include:

Double leg takedown
Single leg take down
Basic hip throw
A few other basic wrestling takedowns

Rear Naked Choke
front lapel choke (dunno what it is called - basically form a cross with your forearms grab hold of each lapel ad apply down ward pressure)
Triangle choke
Arm bar
reverse arm bar

Full Mount
Side Mount
Guard position

Simple boxing

All these - easy to learn. Note easy to learn doesn not mean easy to master. But you can always practise in your own time.

samadhi_fire SG

Gurkhas take Kyokushin as well.

I asked one of them at the last tournament. After BMT (or their equivalent), half of them take up Aikido, half of them take up Kyokushin.

Kyokushin good - full-contact bareknuckle sparring.

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