Black Boots, Black Rifles

last SG · 2005-09-20T20:08:26+00:00

Hi Tarutaru No offense but you sound like you have not serve in ns but have watched way tooo many war movies. True enough that the airforce is effective in...

Calvary SG

UP till todae, i am stil pondering, if we go to war wearing those "Topic" there is no concealment at all. Enemies can see us easily.

Why they dun use brown green black boots and rifles. ?_?

death_burger SG

I think that black matches with dark green, so it is still hard for the enemy to spot us. But there's one problem: shiny boots Razz
No wonder nowadays it is not compulsory to polish your boots till it shine! Laughing
So, never shine your boots . Just darken it will do, for your own safety should there be war! Wink

insouciant SG

If you ever have gone out to the field with black boots and black rifles, you’ll realize that it’s not all that easy to spot.

SBS9828X SG

had this game during NCC training on cover and concealment... shine and colour were most important... hid behind bush 2m high still can be found Laughing

death_burger SG

Cover and concealment is never enough for hiding. Certain factors need to be considered such as field discipline eg. noise discipline. Without these, you can be found no matter where u hide. Wink

sgboy2004 SG

thermal detector… u cannot hide lah

Ponders SG

cover and concealment is just to lower your chances of getting hit/spotted... not 100% invisible.

but at close range, all these doesn't matter since close range its more about daring to shoot with enough power to pin enemy down and your comrades trust you enough to keep them pinned while they fight forward.

while fighting forward.. your boots will usually be covered by vegetation, your black rifle shouldn't matter as people who spot it will not focus on your rifle but trying to get themselves covered from bullets flying overhead.

vIn.Warrior SG

actually how will we ever go to war?
though pple always say "in case in case"...but Singapore going to war is definitely impossible in the next 10 years. maybe going for humanitarian aid, rather.

LazerLordz SG

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insouciant SG

Wah lao... NCC... I feel old. Much different when you are in the army lah.

take cover a time or two, fire and movement, actually bash thru jungle a bit, and you'll find that ur boots definitely not so shiny (which you shouldn't be shining in the 1st place) anymore.

Actually I haven't seen a nice shiny black rifle except for the time when we drew NDP weopons for the NDP itself. Laughing

lwflee SG

Can...just hide behind thick vegetation or some solid object.

tarutaru SG

but warfare nowadays different infantry come last just to occuplied and secure places the air forces and arty would start 1st then the armour would move in lastly is the infantry.

SpecOps87 SG

Not exactly true,the future of combat lies in the urban built up areas. where the enemy may be fighting right in the room next to you. In this day and age, it still takes boots on the ground to be declared the victor of the war.

CKtalon SG

that's not really true..It's a common misconception that infantry is last..The bridging units are still infantry units..u need to secure the landsite for the armour to go forward right? And u think the enemy will let u bridge without doing anything..?
Massive lives at stake during the bridging..all infantrymen..

Anyway, if you go bashing in the jungle..ur boots tend to become shiny..why? Stupid vegetation sure got moisture wet ur boots.making them look more shiny than normal Laughing

insouciant SG

Which country you in? Even in Iraq, the US military had to send the infantry in to clear the houses. You think can just blast away at everything and anything is it?

tarutaru SG

Yah after the air force, arty and armour nearly wipe everything then the infantry move in.

CKtalon SG

never read wat I say..-_-"

"It's a common misconception that infantry is last..The bridging units are still infantry units..u need to secure the landsite for the armour to go forward right? And u think the enemy will let u bridge without doing anything..?
Massive lives at stake during the bridging..all infantrymen.."

Next in the event of war, both sides will leave their bases/camps to go to an undisclosed FUP..so the Air force can bomb all the bases, but do you think all the soldiers will still be there and waiting there for you to kill them? (Remember that SG will only fight if provoked..so naturally for us to go bomb them means they are in the state of preparing for war)
Arty can strike the bases too, but you sure it can hit the soldiers who are not there? You also need a FO to go forward to direct the firing for better accuracy..It's not so simple as just all the big guns shoot down and infantry come along to plant flag..It's a very wrong mentality..

If so, we can just have about 1-2 Bdes to go plant the flag..and all go through commando training.. Rolling Eyes
There's a reason why there are so many infantry rifleman afterall..

insouciant SG

U shd tell that to the infantry that is going house to house in Iraq now.

Man u live in another world..

tarutaru SG

of cos there are some people/ enemy hiding lah...goondo.....if in the old days the infantry would go in first b4 the air force and other forces gone in right but now most in fact all the war are won by more superior air power.....u have to agree that US lost Vietnam becos they think their infantry, marine and other land force are more superior.

tarutaru SG

Also another reason for the air forces come in 1st, would want to cut the lost on the gound force also to destroy the com service of the enermy