someone told me NS is a joke

last SG · 2005-08-28T11:50:34+00:00

Wow, I just wonder if the Army knows what they are doing? How can we convince outsiders that SAF is a deterent force if we can't get the basics right?

bismarck SG

with less than 2 weeks to enlistment, i feel like bashing that person up

nvm it's a she

I-like-flings(m) SG

good... finally it's time to grow up liao Mr. Green

harryryan SG

n they say my life is a joke Laughing

laurence82 SG

Get her to enlist and see if she can laugh for two years. Laughing

Fatum SG

it feels like a joke sometimes .... a curse sometimes ... a blessing sometimes .... an adventure sometimes ..... a drag sometimes ..... a prision sentence sometimes .... a holiday sometimes ....

but once it's over, there'll be a lot of nice, bittersweet memories .... Wink

wuming78 SG

so get her to elaborate why she thinks its a joke.

and make clear whether she thinks the concept of NS is a joke, or how NS is done in Singapore is a joke.

then get her to give her opinions on how it can be less of a joke.

bismarck SG

i was thinking, if war really comes,

i let the enemies shoot her first then i shoot...or i bundle her as my bulletproof vest,

reminds me of a ultra sexist statement my friend made abt wars and females.

freedom4ever SG

i will shoot those f**king officers and then shoot those f**k-up civillian that only knows how to complain.

BlUe [email protected]|eLd SG

Did anywan mention to u NS is a hell?? If no, prepare for HELL!!! Twisted Evil

stellazio SG

Some people just talk rubbish when they themselves have never experienced it.. Laughing

Patrik SG

Tell her that she is a joke herself.

Fatum SG

tell her that rape is a common weapon of war against civilians ..... like her ...

Ponders SG

to some extend... BMT phase is somewhat a joke now...

well... i don't wish to elaborate much.. but in general.... it's like this...

1. due to safety concerns... much training have been toned down... components of the 7 day field camp and held OUTSIDE the 7 day time frame.

2. no more section based training during field camp.

3. group training is a 1.5 day affair.

4. non-tact break for 1/2 day.

5. no need to pass ippt, range and IFC anymore to pass BMT.

6. you can ATT B all the way in BMT and still no need to recourse.

7. only way to recourse is like you OOT (OOC), early in the course. ppl who OOT like in 2nd half of BMT are given the discretion.

well.. i have a feeling people is going to flame me for this post... but really... i personally witness how BMT have changed.... and it's now very frustrating to conduct BMT...

recruits who do not put in effort will not differ much from those who does. yes, they don't go Command schools, but you think they care?

and those recruits who does care would voice out the unfairness in the effort they put in just to differ....... so how am i, as their superiors, supposed to answer them?

Fatum SG

tell them what they do in NS is a reflection of their character and work ethics ... would an employer like someone who chao gengs all the time in NS ? ... they would probably bring the same selfish ethic to work won't they ....

I-like-flings(m) SG

how will the employer know u chao geng or not??? being an officer or spec dun mean u very siao on with very good work ethic u know??? Rolling Eyes

ditzy SG

NS is a joke because you make it a joke. Laughing

Manager433 SG

share wif you this: during my bmt dec 92 - mar 93, witnessed a woman recruit threathening to jump down the block wif so many officer calming her down ( she jump or no jump I not so sure ), over at safti for live grenade throwing, witnessed women OCT crying becoz kana tekan by their WOMEN instructors.........

ask your lady friend go sign up as regular........I bet first day of bmt she jump.

Manager433 SG

Not really, I learn how to kill with my bare hands.

Fatum SG

i never said being an officer or a spec confers upon you a certain work ethic, infact, for officers especially, that's very often a reflection of your results only (c'mon, you know it, I know it, we all see it .... )

but everyone who've worn no.4 should know, there are always those pricks who try to get out of everything and anything. what i'm trying to say is you don't have to be so garang and collect as many stripes or bars as you can, but do what you have to do and don't shrink from it ... sometimes it's bloody ridiculous, have you seen leg injuries downgrades going for atheletics ? ... now it's not a case of I suffer so i want others to suffer the same as me ... i've served my time, did what i have to do and ORD liao, but thinking back to a few characters back then still pisses me off ..... they are certainly people whom i'll never employ, no matter how qualified, because i know they will always be looking for an easy way out ... and never put in a hundred percent.

Gordonator SG

i fully agrees with u. nowadays the qualities of recruits has really gone down.

their attitude and mindset are of a bo chup, couldn't care less type. they seems less motivated. i believe the new BMT system is to be blamed. with the system so slack now, how are commanders able to bring out the best in them? to overcome and excel in the things they do?

they don't care whether they go command schools or not. if these bunch of unmotivated rercuits were to be selected for command school, do u think they will be able to instruct trainees with motivation and dedication after they become instructors? Neutral