Do Platoon Sergeants have enough experience?

last SG · 2005-08-09T11:33:36+00:00

don is famous lah... even the rsm loves him. Kaoz.... super garang loh... first few days of ptp "qie" us with pushups every evening... one of my sect mate ev...

London9 SG

Interesting comparison and contrast from SG and UK army websites:

SG 3rd Sergeant (Section Commander) - 38 weeks from recruit

SG 2nd Sergeant (Platoon Sergeant) - 1 year 38 weeks from recruit

UK Corporal (Section Commander) - 9 years from recruit

UK Sergeant (Platoon Sergeant) - 12.5 years from recruit

Marco_Simone SG

Especially those air levels ones very fu-cked up and blurred.Think fitness is everything…No leadership and man management skills at all.Sighzzz…

wuming78 SG

not sure if this is a fair comparison. is the duration for SG also applicable to regulars?

anyway with a limited pool of population to tap from to form our defence force, it is not practical for us to practise what the UK does.

a fairer comparison will be one with another conscript force, from a country with comparable population.

Gordonator SG

my BMT Platoon Sergeant is a bo chup cannot-make-it fellow. talk about leading with pride. sigh. Neutral Confused Rolling Eyes

kwlee SG

normally u compared the %centage.

Master -_- SG

My BMT platoon sergeant talks like he has a dick in his mouth..

everffffboffddyyyfff fffaafffll inffffff Laughing

London9 SG

Wuming78

No criticism intended.

The question still remains however, how much advice and support can a platoon sergeant with 2 years experience give an inexperienced officer on the battlefield?

And if the answer is 'not much', what is the solution?

London9 SG

Ponders SG

In singapore.. it is really no choice but they got to go by this system. otherwise there's not enough people going around to fill in the NS units positions.

let's not talk about BMT platoon sergeants.... but unit PS "usually" have 2-4 years experience before taking on a PS role. While uncomparable to UK, they would have more exp than a newly post in PC in a mono-intake.

We cannot really use UK as an example. UK has very few ranks to rise up. they only have 7 NCO ranks. PTE->CPL->SGT->SSG and 3 grades of WO.

also note that WO overseas have VERY VERY different roles than in SIngapore.

e.g. There can be only 1 warrant officer first class in the entire army.

unlike singapore where there is 40+ SWO.

Why singapore introduced several more ranks in 1992 is to be more fair and flexible to the regulars in recognition of their contirbution. Otherwise we would have an army of disgruntled WO or SSG who served many years but just few ranks above 3SG.

fudgester SG

Erm... is that who I think that is?

Gordonator SG

not 2SG Don, it's his successor 3SG Jamal. i'll rather have a garang PS then a slack, bo chup, couldn't care less PS like him. Rolling Eyes

OH-FF SG

Which is why matured reservists give face and cooperate with each other. We already know what is wayang all about .

NSFs who throw their weight around don't know what is good for them.
However i've seen some young 3rd sgts with the talents to teach and will do very well in the force.

Most of those who don't even put in effort are those who thinks their job is Iron rice bowls. For others who have done their homework will be rewarded with more than just respect from their students, but also from their superiors.

London9 SG

The British Army ranks are Pte- LCpl -Cpl -Sgt -SSgt -WO2 -WO1. The senior WO2 in a Company is the CSM and the senior WO1 in a Regiment is the RSM.

The Australian Army has the same ranks, excluding SSgt and also has one senior WO position - RSM-A

I believe SG WOs have the same status as British/Australian WOs but fill a broader range of positions. British WOs also only serve up to 22 rather than 35 years and are not members of the Officers Mess. They are addressed as 'Sir' but not saluted (same as Singapore).

Rockhound SG

realistically..it takes years for a SG regular to be a platoon sergeant.....some of my Instructors in SISPEC are in the army for 5 years plus and they still havent done their PS tour....

too much manpower....

u shouldnt follow the ARC website too closely...its a different case in real life...

Altis84 SG

u have a prob with air level students ah Shocked wahaha dun generalise leh.

Altis84 SG

hrmm don from tekong? f coy ah... he used to me my ps loh.. super garang.. kaoz.

Cens SG

Pls, let's not get started on stories of 2SG Don. Twisted Evil Laughing

wuming78 SG

given the realities in singapore, how then can we improve the exposure and experience levels of our platoon sergeants?

Marco_Simone SG

Hey,I was an air level guy also.

Seems that the poly educated instructors are better in many ways than the air level ones.Less stuck up...

crazy monkey SG

last time all PS are regulars and they take much longer time to reach where they are compared to now. Rolling Eyes