Paratrooper

last SG · 2005-06-24T12:06:26+00:00

in my bac course there were STAR, NDU, infantry, bruneians and even NCC other than CDO inside, so its not strange alot of people have the airborne wings. but...

temasek_green SG

the last one i saw was in my PDF unit. He was a trainer. Khaki beret. Sad

gonegoose SG

You will be surprised how many ppl there are out there with airborne and ranger qualifications that are non-commandos. Cpt XXXXX (now MAJ i should think) who was COA's SA is one example that i have met, he is a Guards Offr by the way. However, after saying that, i would not have an idea if they have done a combat jump in his life.

quivalen SG

i stand corrected, then. i guess i underestimated the number of siao-on people around. ;-)

i still think its unlikely that they'd have trained with combat equipment though, because there is no need for them to be. afaik, the only unit able to jump and fight would be the commandos.

temasek_green SG

they are actually rangers from the old school ......... green, green with guards backing, and red berrets...... Pasir Laba infantry schools was their playground during that era .. Crying or Very sad

LazerLordz SG

I met him once, and I have some reservations about him.Will not say more. Laughing

Prestroz SG

Hey guys... if you notice, all those who are ranger-trained are also airborne qualified, even those not from the Commando formation. If I'm not wrong, there is a particular component during the ranger course that requires the trainees to carry out a mission through airborne insertion. So every ranger trainee should be airborne trained, but whether those non-commandos does combat jump, this I'm not sure Question ... maybe someone out there could enlighten us... Very Happy

Gedanken SG

Uh, nope. Unless things have changed recently, Airborne is not a requirement for the Ranger course. The exercises do not necessarily require airborne insertion, and alternative insertions modes can be used.

quivalen SG

you must have been noticing the wrong people.

no such thing lah. if that was the case then ranger course would have to be at least 2-3 weeks longer, in order to put the ranger trainees through BAC. which is not the case. nor is there any pre-requisite that ranger trainees have to be BAC qualified.

Icemoon SG

NDU are not airborne trained?

Ok, they are not seals Very Happy

quivalen SG

some are.
only regulars though.

one-niner SG

hmm seen quite a number of NDU/SOF warrent and officers with the SEAL trident badge. I do belive one of the photos in the recent PRIDE day article posted on iMINDEF did show a NDU officer wearing a SEAL badge. http://www.mindef.gov.sg/display.asp?number=2496

With regards to the Ranger and Airborne discussion. its true that not all rangers will get their Airborne badge during their Ranger Course. My fren attended the Ranger course last yr did not get any airborne badge, just the coveted reb tab.

StRiKeMaN SG

Which would Mostly Prefer? Rangers Or Commando? Mr. Green

Prestroz SG

Sorry for the wrong information guys... pls forgive my ignorance Crying or Very sad but it sure looks weird just wearing the ranger tab without any confidence badge... Laughing maybe it's just the general perception that all those who are ranger-trained are bloody garang with the hell lot of confidence badges... Razz

LazerLordz SG

I believe that's the US Navy SEALs badge?Do we have a local NDU proficiency badge?? Confused

Icemoon SG

I think the point is whether they have an airborne team like halo-qualified A-teams in the Green Berets?

NathanG5 SG

Ranger Course is a confidence course itself in SAF context..

there is no Ranger Unit in SAF or the Commandos formation..

Icemoon SG

I think if SAF lacks elite soldiers to carry out special ops, can recall all the officers and specialists with ranger tab. Very Happy

riken1974 SG

Seen this guy with the SEAL trident b4. Think he's with the NDU/SWG. Special Wafare Group

temasek_green SG

hey guys, the rangers i came across during my time in Safti all had airborne with full jump status....even for those with green berets. A different era....perhaps? Confused

Gedanken SG

Not really. If you’ve completed the Ranger course, you may as well complete the much-easier Airborne course. It’s just that Airborne is not a strict requirement for Ranger.

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