Insubordination

Laguna83 SG

Wat if ur Sgt ask u to knock it down even if u think that u did nothing wrong then u don’t do it, will u be charge with insubordination directly?

thoreldan SG

you definitely have not seen hock kian peng confronting their commanders before Smile

fudgester SG

Regardless, the best idea is to just shut up and knock it down. 20x push ups (or even more) is small potatoes compared to a few days of DB because of insubordination.

Patrik SG

Just do the 20 lah...
Is it really so hard?
No point arguing with them...

Moxie SG

You think what, this is NCC ah? ~lol~

Just teasing ...

Suck thumb, lah. Sometimes the system just want a scrapegoat, & some small fly suay-suay gets arrowed as "it" ~shrugs~

What's 20 push-ups compared to sign extra or sign 1206? Both the latter punishments happen regularly as well.

boy in blues SG

write in a complaint report straight away shoot to Mindef, Chief of Army. also CC to Rear-Admiral(NS) Teo Chee Hean and your friendly neighborhood MP. mai tu liao Mr. Green

kwlee SG

teo chee hean rod liao la

boy in blues SG

he still got enough rank to serve this purpose what

Gordonator SG

lan lan suck thumb do it loh. but, later remember go report to your officer, let the officer handle the sgt. Twisted Evil

YI SG

calling the saf hot line is your rights. remember that.

Zooish SG

You think, he thought, who confirm??? Laughing

20 only, juz do it lor... there will always be another opportunity to seek revenge and sabo yur sgt Twisted Evil

btw, they wun charge u for little things like dat, it involves too much paper work and the PCs/OCs wun go to all that trouble for minor stuff. probably just make u sign extra.[/u]

pika1987 SG

sometimes u disagree wif ya superiors, they pull rank or abuse their authority... i personally is a victim of that... really "gaek sim"...
*pound my chest*
but this is reality... this is the world we live in...

BaByBoY SG

this is the correct way to do things IMO

telling wat ever officers is useless
regreted not giving one of the sgts hell when i was NSF

BrUtUs SG

jz lanlan do it la... he can come up wif 101 reasons to knock u down... after do it u not hapi then complain to higher level lor... heard that from a ssgt...

Moxie SG

In the words of Jack Neo:

"Can tahan one, it's xun4 lian4 (to train)."

"Cannot tahan one, it's mo2 lian4 (to temper)."

gnoik SG

Just LL do ba since only 20..
But some sgts are 2 much..knock us down for fun only.. Rolling Eyes

specfore SG

Hey guys.... this form of "bullying" exists everywhere and with anyone.

OK.... in the army it can be more common as rank is going to be pulled anyhow by people trying to get the job done or in enforcing discipline.

What I can only advise is this.... take the punishment / scolding if it is light first and make an official complaint to the next higher authority. Just as in your workplace. Sit down and think thru' how to present your case. It is very easy to let emotions run high and let them feed your anger. If you lose your temper or are insubordinate in anyway, you will lose. At the end of the day, the higher authority will always back up its managers , officers, NCOs , specs whatever.... Because the whole system of work and discipline is based around respect and acknowledgement that the someone who is chosen or elected to be your senior has to make the decisions. He has his own problems which are different in nature and scale.