salary for degree holder. opinions pls

last SG · 2010-11-02T23:44:27+00:00

I heard cases whereby you can get a foreign Masters grad working for you for less than $2k. If I was an employer, I would also want to employ her and ignore...

Grolsch SG

would you take up a job (fresh graduate) for 1200 monthly?

Junyang700 SG

1,200 degree grad???? WTF? Hell no.

likeyou SG

I think higher..$1.2k is way to low.

Probably around $2k?

But depends on what you major in.

Gedanken SG

1200? What is this, 1985?

Junyang700 SG

Heard that some PRC graduates walk in and promise their employers that they will work the 1st month trial for free though - just need food and accomodation.

Probably the reason why I offer 1.9k to 2.1k not many employer ask me go interview.

FireIce SG

which industry?
wat position?

likeyou SG

Well, lets put in this way.

Spore now have many cheap foreign workers whos willing to work at $1.2k per month.

So, if they are willing to work at this low salary, will employers employ them or you (if you are asking for $2.2k per month)?

Spore are facing this problem right now...a virus that was caused by the influx of cheap labour.

Junyang700 SG

In the past my uncle time 15 years ago U grad $3500...

My time $2000 bunn bo lang ai (oso nobody want)!

Grolsch SG

my sentiments exactly. i tried telling my friend thats too low. his take on this is that. he will do so, earn some allowance at least while hunting for a better job ..

not sure what he studied.. should be economics or business..

and the job is not in sales.. its a fixed pay.. contract

my take is that.. once he take up a job for 1.2k.. any future employers will try to give him a lower pay than what they can offer for the job..

is that a reasonable thought?

likeyou SG

If it is a contract, then cannot compare with month salary scale.

Should check how much per hour you friend being offer.

But, as you know, it's employers world. Press too low and take it or leave it. Also, foreigners waiting to grab the jobs too.

Maybe your friend can work for the time being (better to be employed) and at the same time, look for another jobs (higher salary).

Junyang700 SG

Your friend should not sign the contract.

If he's going for a part-time job for $1,200 - those that can resign anytime when he gets a job, its ok. (Understand he might have problems without working and without income.)

No way should he go into a 1 or 2 year contract job which pays him only $1.2k.

He's making himself even harder to find a full-time job that pays well.

New employer ask...
"So when can you start work?"
"1 years time..."
"Ok... thank you for your time

Grolsch SG

Junyang : Heard that some PRC graduates walk in and promise their employers that they will work the 1st month trial for free though - just need food and accomodation.

Probably the reason why I offer 1.9k to 2.1k not many employer ask me go interview

likeyou : Well, lets put in this way.

Spore now have many cheap foreign workers whos willing to work at $1.2k per month.

So, if they are willing to work at this low salary, will employers employ them or you (if you are asking for $2.2k per month)?

Spore are facing this problem right now...a virus that was caused by the influx of cheap labour.

hm. but it seems to me that does not demonstrate negotiating skills.. doesnt reflect very well on the candidate it seems.. @ junyang : did they get hired in the end???????

Grolsch SG

lol.. i see likeyou and junyangs point..

he's earning 8 per hour.. 8 hr work week..

i still think its low.. given that he can take up tuition and earn much more per hourly rate.. and continue to look for a decent pay job..

then again.. theres the other side of the argument.. gaining experience!

likeyou SG

I need to check.

$8 pr hour is normal pay (office work) regardless of whether you are a degree or not.

A company survival will not care much on the staff they employed. They only want to see black.

About negotiating skills, seem like not workable at present. Employers just want cheap and experience and can work longer hours workers.

I am sorry if I really pour cold water on you.

Kuch2 ranee SG

I'm a fresh grad and earn $2000 for my first job, and I'm happy for that ;)

likeyou SG

I'm a fresh grad and earn $2000 for my first job, and I'm happy for that ;)

Good to hear that.

If employer willing to offer $2k for a fresh grad, take it immediately.

Degree better or diploma better, I mean commence a better salary?

Grolsch SG

@likeyou

i see your viewpoint.. cold water is okay for hot weather like this.. so i guess it all depends on what a person wants and who he is....

@kuch2 ranee

good for you.. 2000 is a reasonable sum.. care to share what are you doing?

Kuch2 ranee SG

Thanx all. I'm also quite grateful. I'm PR from Indonesia, having degree of Political Science from local Indonesian Univ. In singapore, I'm interested to join Insurance initially, so I took all the required courses and modules, sponsored by the company. Apparently, I found the sales job doesnt suit my nature. So i tried to look for another opportunity. Eversince, there are many insurance company eager to hire me, considering all insurance qualification that I have. Now I'm working as staff at one of the insurance company, has nothing to do with sales, and they pay me $2000

Grolsch SG

@likeyou and all who's checking out this topic

well, my friend is getting 3500 for a job with a diploma.. no kidding.. shes in this industry for about 5 years.. accounting..

i think its a combination of skills, experience, qualifications, attitude and luck?

what do you all think?

Kuch2 ranee SG

Yes, agree, Grolsch! :)