Lame reasons to sack a staff

Gedanken SG

tell you something that is real. Any1 caught logging on to facebook will be SACKED in the office.

Well, if the estimated cost of Facebook to business is to be believed, it's perfectly reasonable.

kristovorus SG

So.. how "new" is new? 1 month? 3 months? After a certain time frame and there is still little/no improvement, is the company allowed to sack the under-performing employee now?

Its completely ridiculous to assume that the employee have the right to surf facebook/the net while working. The company is paying you money for your time, so they own your time completely under the conditions stiputated in your contract.

why facebook and not MSN? if co dun want its staff to surf FB, why not block the website and out of bounds to staff I wonder.

So the company is expected to spend money to craft the workplace into an idiot-proof environment where the employees are forced to do exactly what they're employed for? Where are the extra funds going to come from, deducted from the employee's pay?

Some people don't have the habit of smiling lor

So some employers have the habit for firing unfriendly employees. How unfortunate for the employee. It is within the employer's prerogative to do that, especially if the employee has to deal with customers.

Lets face it. If a person doesn't smile, he'll look unfriendly and sullen. Nobody likes to buy something from such a person.

You may think that its unfair to sack an employee within the 3 months probation since the employee is not ' given enough time to shine '. However 3 months is a very long time, enough to clear show that the person is not suited for the job. Part-time employees in event/roadshows etc are given learning curves of mere hours and you don't see them screwing up as much. The probation period is meant to weed out undesirable employees, or else whats the point of "probation"

keeptouch SG

So judging from Kristovorus post, I can say that he will not feel that it is unfair if he get sacks during the 3 months probation if he does work slow, learn things slow etc.

Than I wish him good luck.

Vchua46 SG

I fully agree to the injustice done to staff in 3-months probation for working slow and trying to make them work as if they are working in the new office for 3 years.

I have been removed from my last office due to the same reason. sighzzz

kcockicht SG

i encounter many such scenes very funny.

(1) the china man supervisor say you go in do this. so the chap also go in and do as told. then the china sup say did you do it. the guy really did as told then the sup just twist around say he never do. in the sack letter never mention details just say failure to complile. the HR never give a report on the details, just say a few sentence like that. then at the coffee tshop and around company can cook a lot of disjhes on what happened but still non documented on details of how the employee fail to comply

(2) another case the superior see the report then always ask why why why anymore anymore anymore details when the report clearly states everything. tell you change this change that then change everything back again. then ask why this why that and say oh i cannot work with you. "i resign lah bloody hell" the employee did.

but really no point in those cases. that gu can do for a while without job but the chinas and the whywhy men they can't, not a day without job to finance the condonminium and they punick employment passes

NG QIBO AARON AUBREY SG

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viciouskitty74 SG

So judging from Kristovorus post, I can say that he will not feel that it is unfair if he get sacks during the 3 months probation if he does work slow, learn things slow etc.

Than I wish him good luck.

Its obvious, that Kirstovorus didnt feel its unfair if he cannot work fast or pick up things fast during his probation period and he gets sacked.

If you cannot pick up the pace, you are either not interested in the job, not willing to learn the job and not enjoying your job. Stay for what?

viciouskitty74 SG

Yawnzz.....I was lucky.

My previous boss tells me that I picked up the job within a month where it took his ex employee a year to pick up.

caleb_chiang SG

You meant you got sacked with these reasons?

caleb_chiang SG

Oops... seems like the question is answered...

But then... probation period is where you are observed and decided whether you can stay or have to leave...

Alexandrine SG

I was "revised" by this b*tch HRM for taking too many coffee trips and long toilet trips (of course, I don't rinse my hands under water for 1 sec). She assumed I was idling from my job n' being unproductive. If I was caught in action, that surmised that she was there idling 2 the same time too duh...! Anyway, hear she always hover around surreptiously to "book" offenders. The company: P*CO Art.

kcockicht SG

1. You do work very slow. I can do the work myself which is faster or employ someone who can do the work faster than you. So I am going to sack you.

2. You make mistakes. Although it is not serious mistakes and not much mistakes too, but I need to check your work after you finish it. In that case it is better for me to do the work myself. So I am going to sack you.

3. You learn things very slow. I want to sack you and employ a fast learner.

These are some of the lame reasons that I heard before that is used by the company to sack a staff.

Anyone have heard of any other lame reasons?

Nope your company got one written procedure but eveyone do their own things any say anything nice to hear can he or she is right. so even if you follow the procedure suka suak everyday just say this is wrong that is right, no that is right now this is wrong then . kanabey join new company have to hehehe smile greet good morning to every one including the guard's dog everyday buay sian arh? everydae smoke smoke people die not because cancer cannot cure but is after treatment still smoke cancer will never go away. i learn things but people keep changing policies, proceudres, the thing sthey say and taught i doubt even trie because its not how that's to be done.

don't be so naive lah, you can do a zillion right things and be sacked while and people can do a zillion wrong things and still keep job be laojiao lanjiao

coolgeek84 SG

I think even within the 3 month probabtion period, those reasons are perfectly valid for a staff to be sacked. I mean after working for 2months plus, you still don't know how to do basic stuff? Then you must be quite crappy or working with no interest in the job.

I believe there is no reason as a lame reason.. Everything can be justified from the boss's point of view.. LOL..

Hitman_ SG

JUST DO YER JOB......NO DOWN TIME OR NOT MUCH DOWN TIME CAUSED BY MISTAKES then thats pretty much ok.

but it all depends if they like yer face.if yer face hamsome and u just smile and dunno pretty much of everything can also become manager or engineer in most parts of world.:)

kcockicht SG

JUST DO YER JOB......NO DOWN TIME OR NOT MUCH DOWN TIME CAUSED BY MISTAKES then thats pretty much ok.

but it all depends if they like yer face.if yer face hamsome and u just smile and dunno pretty much of everything can also become manager or engineer in most parts of world.:)

Bingo

kcockicht SG

I believe there is no reason as a lame reason.. Everything can be justified from the boss's point of view.. LOL..

from what i see usually the probabtion period is more for employee to fit in adapt to the work environment. probabtion can be extended and employees (good ones) will usually call employee in and review the problems with them if the boss see potential in developing the worker even if he cannot pick up fast. do the same thing over and over you tell me no one can perform faster or more constant?

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