Embarrassed to flash Sg passport in foreign countries?

last SG · 2012-05-29T22:46:33+00:00

I never felt ashmaed as an Singaporen where ever I go and I always explain the rational behind our policies when asked or challenged.

Nigho17 SG

A Singapore passport is well respected. My experience has been positive and I hope it keeps that way. Asians are not generally respected in Western countries, especially with the massive wave of immigrants from China and India. And mind, the China Chinese had on occasions been quite disgraceful in their behaviour overseas. When people knew that I'm from Singapore, they became friendlier and more helpful. So your perception is more imagined than real.

Likewise, I have nv been ill-treated in any foreign countries either.

No one will throw ur passport at ur face(an example) even if they have bad impression of ur country.

Anyway, I didn't not say they hate Singaporean. Just bad impression but not hate.

troublemaker2005 SG

put neoprints inside sg passpork

Yyhester SG

And to add, people in Western countries do have their share of problems which they recognise. For example, having no capital sentence and prisoners on murder crimes are allowed on parole. There had been incidences when these prisoners killed someone after release from prison. And families of victims are lobbying for stricter parole rules, some even wanted the capital sentence back.

When these foreigners make a negative comment, ask them whether they have been to Singapore. If not, they have no right to judge.

Often, people are despised for their personal behaviour - be gracious when travelling overseas. If you give a good impression, no one would misunderstand. I live in NZ, the country mentioned in your list.

Nigho17 SG

When these foreigners make a negative comment, ask them whether they have been to Singapore. If not, they have no right to judge.

According to this report, we have the highest(surpass middle east countries) death penalty per capita:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3398043.stm

I am not advocating a removal of capital punishment.

But 15g of heroine = MANDATORY death sentence is not acceptable(imo).

Kuali Baba SG

You need to meet people abroad more often, because (1) you rarely need to show your passport outside the airport, (2) 99% of the people you meet will clarify those stories with you first when they learn that you're S'porean, and (3) everyone is ashamed of more than more than one thing about his/her country.

Instead of asking others, "What do you know about Singapore," ask, "What would you like to know about Singapore?" Their impressions of a country are formed by their interactions with individuals (like YOU) as much as what they see on TV.

You don't have to be proud or ashamed of what is not within your control, like our history and our laws. It's okay to wish for some of the things other countries enjoy. There are lots of things to be grateful for, however - a wide variety of inexpensive food, how close everything is from your house, and even the warm rain (you try living with freezing rain and gale-force winds elsewhere).

Paem SG

We are just a small fly in the global community. What is there to feel proud or embarrassed about?

Fryderyk HPH SG

I travel to the Republic of Korea ever so often and I can assure TS that the Singapore Passport is very well recognised and respected there.

Ever so often, I might meet some Koreans that do not know where Singapore is. But once they know that Singapore citizens are from one of the very few countries in Asia that do not require visas to R.O.K., their impression of Singaporeans differs from our other Asian compatriots. Don't forget, the R.O.K. is a country where racial and country profiling/typing is still conducted on a large scale, so this is a big deal.

Also, in the People's Republic of China, Singapore Passport holders are one of four nations not previously in the Soviet Bloc (or are post-Communist countries) that can enter P.R.C. visa-free, albeit for 15 days or less. In China, once you mention Singapore, you would likely be told "Oh, LKY", or "Singapore, oh very clean!". To them, Singapore is a post-colonial success story.

My current Singapore Passport has the stamps of entry in Paris CDG, Zürich Klöten and Milano Malpensa. I also have the exit stamps of Frankfurt (am Main), München FJS and Zürich Klöten. At all the Schengen border control points, the visa-free status of my Singapore Passport is one that I am very proud of when I see people around me who require them.

While as Singaporeans, we may or may not agree with how some things are run. However, my red Singapore Passport is something I truly value. On a personal note, it does things which even the other green Korean (R.O.K.) Passport cannot do.

TehJarVu SG

why not proud, mine's a black braun buffel

Nigho17 SG

I travel to the Republic of Korea ever so often and I can assure TS that the Singapore Passport is very well recognised and respected there.

Perhaps I didn't phrase my topic properly.

My main concen is not whether Singapore passport is recognised or not, is more of how people view Singapore as country. Do we give a positive image to the world?

Why we have easy access to countries? Singapore maintain a neutral standpoint(very understanable) on most contentious issue + low crime rate + our open economy + export-led gdp. Therefore, it necessitates our government to foster good relationship between all countries. If we have easy access to their countries, they have easy access to our country too. I am not criticizing it, but this isn't something I am proud of. It is juz necessary for our economy.

I rather boost about my clean and safe city. I am grateful about it too.

Anyway it's good to know that alot of Singaporeans are proud of themselves.

FireIce SG

so ur qn is just...... Are you proud to be Singaporean? rite?

y bother make it so complicated tok abt pp.

Nigho17 SG

so ur qn is just...... Are you proud to be Singaporean? rite?

y bother make it so complicated tok abt pp.

Bcuz I am going overseas soon, and today I was packing and trying to find my pp. Usually when I am going(or about to go) overseas then I start thinking whether am I genuinely proud to be a Singaporean. To me, the 'flash passport' part, is more of identifying ur nationality than considering usefulness my passport.

I typed the opening thread with my pp beside me. Thinking back, 'Are you proud to be Singaporean?' is indeed a more appropriate title.

FireIce SG

oni tt black face minah at the a/p customs will be looking at it

the rest of the time, it better be safe and snug somewhere close to u, and where ppl can't see it

6u3king SG

I'm proud to be a Singaporean, Born and bred in this little red dot, And I gladly stand up, even though the laws are tough, where at least i know we are safe and easy access to all amneites are still here, Freedom has it price but i thankfully can take stroll at midnight and be safe, go out anytime and speak Singlish , the Red Passport has garnered me a lot of respect when i travel abroad, Yeah yes the law is too strict, then again who cares i am proud to be a Singaporean even though a lot can be improved

Nigho17 SG

Are strict laws the main and only contributing factor to low crime? Saudi Arabia has strict laws, there isn't anywhere safe. Japan has low crime - lower homicide rate than Sg according to wikipedia - but no tough laws. Are we undermining other factors - good education, strong economy, efficient police force, efficient government - contributing to low crime?

One last qns: immediately after Oliver Fricker incident, if u travel to Switzerland, are u 100% comfortable to declare that u Singaporean??

mancha SG

Nigho, when you are overseas please tell everyone you meet you are from Singapore, they will be happy to meet you and want to know more about Singapore.

I know for sure. I have been overseas and they all know a little of Singapore. And most have high regard for Singapore.

The problem is you, not the passport or Singapore or the people's perception of Singapore. There are more reasonable people in the world than silly people.

And if you talk bad about your own country, only then they will look down at you.

If someone condemn Singapore and you say nothing, that person will laugh at you, and the on-lookers will pity you.

Dalforce 1941 SG

One last qns: immediately after Oliver Fricker incident, if u travel to Switzerland, are u 100% comfortable to declare that u Singaporean??

That fucker Oliver Fricker come and vandalise public property, he should be punished according to law.

Nigho17 SG

Nigho, when you are overseas please tell everyone you meet you are from Singapore, they will be happy to meet you and want to know more about Singapore.

I know for sure. I have been overseas and they all know a little of Singapore. And most have high regard for Singapore.

The problem is you, not the passport or Singapore or the people's perception of Singapore. There are more reasonable people in the world than silly people.

And if you talk bad about your own country, only then they will look down at you.

If someone condemn Singapore and you say nothing, that person will laugh at you, and the on-lookers will pity you.

Simple scenario:

Guy A: Hi! Where are u from?

Me : Singapore

Guy A:Oh, It's a very clean city.

This isn't holding high regarding; It's merely superficial courtesy. What is he really thinking, u wouldn't noe.

For myself, I wouldn't ask a middle east person who I first met:

''Hey, why is ur country still beheading people publicly?''

''I heard u guys watch the entire procedure like some sort of football game.''

''Is it true that u guys are cheering during the process?''

Probably, I would say something lydat: ''Oh! ur country is very rich, full of oil.'' That isn't my real impression of his nation. I am just trying to be polite.

I have been to many major cities around the world, those that aren't close to me, have nv ever utter a word of criticism against Sg. Only those who are reasonably close to me, would tell me what they truly feel.

If someone criticises Singapore, I will only defend if his statement is nonsensical. If he makes a good evaluation, I might support him.

Singapore isn't the best country simply bcuz u are Singaporean. You are not being objective.

FireIce SG

ok. good for u

>clap clap<

Dalforce 1941 SG

Simple scenario:

Guy A: Hi! Where are u from?

Me : Singapore

Guy A:Oh, It's a very clean city.

This isn't holding high regarding; It's merely superficial courtesy. What is he really thinking, u wouldn't noe.

For myself, I wouldn't ask a middle east person who I first met:

''Hey, why is ur country still beheading people publicly?''

''I heard u guys watch the entire procedure like some sort of football game.''

''Is it true that u guys are cheering during the process?''

Probably, I would say something lydat: ''Oh! ur country is very rich, full of oil.'' That isn't my real impression of his nation. I am just trying to be polite.

If someone criticises Singapore, I will only defend if his statement is nonsensical. If he makes a good evaluation, I might support him.

Singapore isn't the best country simply bcuz u are Singaporean. You are not being objective.

so you support or oppose PAP?

mancha SG

Singapore is your country, it should be subjective.

One again it boils down to you.

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