Holy Cross at Clementi

last SG · 2008-12-27T10:19:35+00:00

As for your question 2, something to share from David McDonald's site (http://www.davidmacd.com/catholic/priests_forgive_sins_call_no_man_father.htm):The dis...

the Bear SG

i'm one of the guys who go there.. well, the church was going through extensive renovations for over a year and it's finally complete...

here are some pics of Holy Cross from yesterday when i attended the Sunset Mass for The Assumption of Mother Mary

This was the newly completed grotto... blessed last night by Father Richards Ambrose

And this is the front of the church..

And the inside..

The front facade of the church was finally complete this week and unveiled for all to see

and not forgetting what day it is today..

amen...

Smarty Boy SG

Yes, this is a beautiful Church and you forgot to take a shot of the right hand side of the Church.....many did not know that right here in Singapore, we have the relic of the Holy Cross that Jesus was nailed onto. It may be a tiny piece but we do have it.

For those who do not know, go take a look - it is right beside the choir stand. God Bless.

limpper SG

i never go church before. lol

NG QIBO AARON AUBREY SG

the one opposite nan hua high sch?

Smarty Boy SG

the one opposite nan hua high sch?

Yes...Do visit as this is a beautiful Church and the first Parish Priest is our current Archbishop Nicholas Chia who is involved in building this Church.

Honeybunz SG

i'm one of the guys who go there.. well, the church was going through extensive renovations for over a year and it's finally complete...

here are some pics of Holy Cross from yesterday when i attended the Sunset Mass for The Assumption of Mother Mary

This was the newly completed grotto... blessed last night by Father Richards Ambrose

And this is the front of the church..

And the inside..

The front facade of the church was finally complete this week and unveiled for all to see

and not forgetting what day it is today..

amen...

Thanks, Bear.

Catholicuser SG

just went recently,, very nicely renovated comapred to the previous.. yes.. the current archbishop Nicholas Chia is from Holy Cross.. Fr. Ambrose parish priest .. so many diocese priests seem to be going ard .. i nearly lost touch where they posted to..

youyayu SG

nice..

gigabyte14 SG

i not christian or anything

but that, is a work of art

bryanw SG

wow sad to say i only go church when got taiji

dumbdumb! SG

i just went there for the midnight mass. see see look look

Honeybunz SG

i just went there for the midnight mass. see see look look

Your gf brought you there?

dumbdumb! SG

Your gf brought you there?

yup. the sermon was abit rushed i felt. lol i expected the church to be ancient, quite.. surprised at the nice clean modern look

Honeybunz SG

yup. the sermon was abit rushed i felt. lol i expected the church to be ancient, quite.. surprised at the nice clean modern look

So nice of you to attend midnight Mass with your gf.

dumbdumb! SG

So nice of you to attend midnight Mass with your gf.

hmm i'm hoping we can take turn to go each other's church. and experience different culture. and more importantly, find out the truth, and increase our ferventness for God

Smarty Boy SG

hmm i'm hoping we can take turn to go each other's church. and experience different culture. and more importantly, find out the truth, and increase our ferventness for God

The Church is modern because it was just renovated....if "ancient, traditional and old" Churches is what you are looking for, go to St Joseph Waterloo St, St Peter & Paul just down the street from St Joseph Waterloo and the Cathedral just across St Peter & Paul.

There are many more such as St Teresa and Nativity but above few are in town and easy to get there.

What's more important is that going Mass at any Church will confirmed that Catholics DO NOT pray to Mother Mary (as a God) and there is NO IDOLATORY practised. Right? Hope you continue to explore with an open mind.

I wrote this because I read your past posts and realised that you are anti-Catholics for reasons which I think you have been mis-lead on (just person opinion and I may be wrong).

Hope your frequent trip with your gf will allow God to show you what the real and true Catholic faith is about...... and see how God works in mysterious way by sending you a Catholic gf when you have strong views (wrong views in my opinion) about them?

By the way, did you know that there is a relic in this Church? There is a splinter of the Cross that Jesus was crucified on in this Church. It is located on the right hand side (if you are facing the alter) just behind the choir. Go take a look.....the real piece of Cross where our Lord died on to save us....a very tiny piece I must admit.

dumbdumb! SG

There are many more such as St Teresa and Nativity but above few are in town and easy to get there.

I wrote this because I read your past posts and realised that you are anti-Catholics for reasons which I think you have been mis-lead on (just person opinion and I may be wrong).

it.. doesn't really matter to me whether the relic is real or not. so long as the church does what she's called to do.

i must say, i quite enjoyed the midnight service. except.. i don't get the incense part and why did they anoint the decorations? it's the only thing i found abit disturbing

well.. so far. i have only found 2 nice catholics, my aunt (despite her not sharing the good news to my family), and my gf.

my gf's friend, who is a catholic, has been a total ass to me la, so far.

i am not sure, if this is true, but i feel that the catholics have a rather exclusive culture, where.. they make it very obvious that outsiders are outsiders, and the catholics are in their own clique, through their actions and speech.

dumbdumb! SG

but.. may i ask a question, because i always get different answers from catholics. my gf, feels that even though a person rejects Jesus as Lord and Savior, he can still goto heaven.

is that a catholic teaching, or is she just mistaken?

i ask this, because.. we actually argued about this. and she told me she believes that even if someone doesn't trust Jesus for salvation, and dies, he still can goto heaven, because God is a merciful God. And she affirms that a catholic priest taught that

i understand and accept that, even among protestants, there are many slightly different doctrine, but we all agree that Jesus is the only way to salvation, so being disturbed by her answer (i told her she can't just anyhow change the rules of how the game is played, to suit how she think God is. While God is merciful, He is also holy and just. Sin is still sin, and sin must be punished by death. He could only extend His mercy to us, and keep His standard of holiness through Jesus' death)

so being disturbed, i asked a friend, who is also dating a catholic, and have really explored the catholic faith rather throughly, whether is it true that catholics believe that, and she said no, catholics don't.

so.. bottom line is, i have 2 different opinions to this very fundamental truth. So, I don't really want to care about doctrine, because doctrine is quite influenced by man.. I just want to know if we agree on fundamental truths - trinity, Jesus's died and rose again, paying for all of mankind's sin, and we are saved by grace - which develops the fruit of salvation, which are good works, and love for others.

this can only be confirmed by catholics honestly answering this,

one day (i don't think this will ever happen), a catholic priest decides to build a church, but didn't built any idols, would the catholics feel it's no big deal - after all, it's still a church, or would they make noise about it - like because they feel that something is missing.

Smarty Boy SG

this can only be confirmed by catholics honestly answering this,

If you understand what praying to Mother Mary is all about, you will know the answer. It is as simple as you praying for your love ones or friends. If you can ask your friend to help you pray, you can ask Mother Mary and all the other Saints to help you pray. What you asked for will be granted and can only be granted by God - NOT Mother Mary or the Saints.....they only help you pray to Jesus to grant it to you (like your friends.....and you can accept them as your friends too!).

The answer is in the Mass you attend when you know that we all pray to God and God alone.....never Mother Mary or the Saints.

Churches will statues of Saints are never a problem even with God (he did order to build them....) and it is part of the Catholics traditions to remember the Saints and their contribution to the Church. No reason we should do away with that because of others misconception right?

There are many occassions where Catholics do celebrate Mass outside the Church such as lunch time Mass at Suntec Rock auditorium.....no problems at all. Nothing is missing....

Hope that when you spend enough time with the Catholic Church, you will surely begin to see that and will dispel your misconceptions.

Smarty Boy SG

it.. doesn't really matter to me whether the relic is real or not. so long as the church does what she's called to do.

i must say, i quite enjoyed the midnight service. except.. i don't get the incense part and why did they anoint the decorations? it's the only thing i found abit disturbing

well.. so far. i have only found 2 nice catholics, my aunt (despite her not sharing the good news to my family), and my gf.

my gf's friend, who is a catholic, has been a total ass to me la, so far.

It's strange that you feel the way you do.....most people going to Holy Cross are quite nice and I do know quite a few people there.....though I don't go there often.

On the other hand, I personally feel that the protestant christians are the one who preached to be exclusive (such as having exculsive salvation right - will alk about that later) and some even do not encourage having non-christians as friends!

I think it will help if you open your mind and heart and let the pass experiences go......it may change the world for you....perspective wise at least.