Transport fares expected to go up

alwaysdisturbed SG

smoke through?

tat means to say you dun even want to see reduced fare?

The increase is as usualy, inflation. Unless you wanna tell me to be like M'sia, subsidise this and tat

though sadly, to encourage public tpt user rate, one way is for more direct trips

i don't see anywhere for a reduction.

like i said, reduce fares for transfer trips but increase for direct trips. it equals out more or less. unless i only take transfer trips. but who only take transfer trips?

hisoka SG

they’ll just increase the price per km. Don’t think it’s hard to get PTC approval, though I haven’t heard a good reason for them to raise prices despite their profits rising every year.

ChoCoChips SG

next time can just raise la.

still waste money waste time discuss with smlj PTC.

FireIce SG

must zo hee mah.

sbst275 SG

i don't see anywhere for a reduction.

like i said, reduce fares for transfer trips but increase for direct trips. it equals out more or less. unless i only take transfer trips. but who only take transfer trips?

eventually it's going to be multiple bus ride, 1 fare

say currently take Bus A for 4 fare stages, transfer to bus B for another 8 fare stages, it would be $0.67 + $1.09 - $0.25 = $1.51

Eventually it would be 12 fare stages fare i.e. $1.19

wat do you mean by more or less? those who take transfer end up pay much lesser which eats into bus operators turnover and eventually profits alrdy... you think running SBS is tat profitable w/ your 60c bus fare? 40% of their profit comes from ads alone

sbst275 SG

next time can just raise la.

still waste money waste time discuss with smlj PTC.

dun forget, MRT fare revision was rejected totally last year

dun come and just say waste time waste $$$

alwaysdisturbed SG

eventually it's going to be multiple bus ride, 1 fare

say currently take Bus A for 4 fare stages, transfer to bus B for another 8 fare stages, it would be $0.67 + $1.09 - $0.25 = $1.51

Eventually it would be 12 fare stages fare i.e. $1.19

don't keep focusing on multiple bus ride.

you are right to say those who make transfers will end up paying much lesser. what i'm trying to say is increasing direct rides will in the end cover up the 'losses' which you claim the operators will be bearing because of paying lesser during transfers.

and i actually don't care how many % of the profit comes from ads alone. seriously they should use these what you said 40% to help cushion fares yet we still see crazy profits.

sbst275 SG

don't keep focusing on multiple bus ride.

and i actually don't care how many % of the profit comes from ads alone. seriously they should use these what you said 40% to help cushion fares yet we still see crazy profits.

you're right to sat abt direct trips

crazy profits? do you know their recent FY profits has dipped even though they came w/ so many Premium Svs tat charges fares at $3 per trip?

you say crazy profits, why aren't you talking abt oil cartel's crazy profits?

even you can crazy profits, if they loose $$ how? increase our income tax to 50% to subsidise diesel, subsidise bus fare, subsidise etc...

you've never thought wat if they're making losses

you say cushion using ad profit, next thing you're going to say other creative methods

freedom4ever SG

next time can just raise la.

still waste money waste time discuss with smlj PTC.

ya lor. agreed with you.

just inform us increase can liao. increase $1, $2, $5 also can. Singaporeans dont mind one mah, tio boh? no need waste time discuss cos end up also increase one. no people dare to protest say the increase is too much or what one lah.

just like ministers pay, want to increase just increase lor.

alwaysdisturbed SG

you're right to sat abt direct trips

crazy profits? do you know their recent FY profits has dipped even though they came w/ so many Premium Svs tat charges fares at $3 per trip?

i don't know that it dipped. even if they dipped, i believe they are still making good bucks.

you say crazy profits, why aren't you talking abt oil cartel's crazy profits?

we're talking about local transportation, not the global oil prices.

even you can crazy profits, if they loose $$ how? increase our income tax to 50% to subsidise diesel, subsidise bus fare, subsidise etc...

you've never thought wat if they're making losses

they'll never lose $$ la. how many here actually believe that they will lose money.

you say cushion using ad profit, next thing you're going to say other creative methods

being a public transport operator, its main objective should be to serve the people with a basic form of transportation, and not for profit gains. they should be the ones thinking of creative methods instead of me. if i can think of such simple method, i don't know what are they paid for.

sbst275 SG

or suggest to me how much can they earn?

$1? 1c? 5c?

pls, it's either profit or losses, there's no way you can run a biz w/ neither losses or profits because of unexpected varaibles

alwaysdisturbed SG

or suggest to me how much can they earn?

$1? 1c? 5c?

pls, it's either profit or losses, there's no way you can run a biz w/ neither losses or profits because of unexpected varaibles

i didn't say profits aren't good. profits are always necessary to improve, invest on new systems, etc.

it just not nice to see high profits and yet little improvements. it really don't justify.

eagle SG

or suggest to me how much can they earn?

$1? 1c? 5c?

pls, it's either profit or losses, there's no way you can run a biz w/ neither losses or profits because of unexpected varaibles

this shows that you didn't get the main gist of the discussion

The main gist is that more of whether public transport companies should be earning huge profits, because they are serving the public, i.e., public services, and in the case of Singapore, they are the monopoly, and demand is extremely inelastic. Even if they doubled or tripled the price, you still have to take public transport if you travel far to work everyday

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