Basic buddhist concepts analysed in a Christian website

last SG · 2012-12-12T09:15:01+00:00

Re the flag and the wind, I believe the answer has got to do with the mind, but this is not the proper answer to give at all. It is again more like playing m...

troublemaker2005 SG

whalao, this one long -winded back again. blah blah blah, professional beggar, phedophiles, anti-gay machine chio kaopeng!

troublemaker2005 SG

1. What do you mean by default? And by design?

2. Have you read Genesis 3?

dont know arh? you mean genesis 3 define 'default' and 'design'?

defaulters' parage arym alot. design, interior films alot. not wrong mah. hahahha

troublemaker2005 SG

You have tended to see a distorted picture of God, and have rejected a caricature instead of the God the Bible reveals.

i can make a photo of god distored.

jus tell me you want what focal length to use. i can easily make it barrel distorted, perspective distorted.

noworries, no photoshopping needed i can still distrot it. hahahahah

troublemaker2005 SG

1. The question is whether God exists, regardless of whether you correctly or incorrectly identify "self" as permanent soul.

2. Does your dog think of you as God? Does it even have that ability to reason and think such thoughts? Anyway it is irrelevant what your dog thinks of you since thereis no way to get into your dog's head to know what it thinks. The fact is, you are not God.

3. The point is that Anthony Flew was a noted atheist philosopher who debated many years for atheism, but gave up atheism when the case for theism was overwhelmingly too strong to refute. I'm not saying that he is the finer arbiter for the existence of God. But if you have not considered his reasons for abandoning atheism, then you have not considered enough the case for theism.

whalao - i find hor you all lose alreaddy write a lot of rot leh. i read dand rad and find your rot rubish and throw back silly questions so many. ask askask askaskakaksakskasksk until hor god also 'facepalm'. god says ' my dear, you all really photoshop me until i disown youall arh'. hahaha

Weychin SG

Then ignore the emotive comments and apply the highest of morals and ethics that we aspire and try to apply ourselves to such acts of cruelty and violence, or do you wish to justify and persuade us that violence is ok. Or is it we are made in the image of god and thus cruelty and violence is being godlike

I wonder what's the point of this link. I do not deny what the Bible records, but I do take issue with the additional unfair and uncalled for comments made by the compiler of the list. He made them in a very disparaging manner using emotive words that reflect his prejudice towards the Bible.

Weychin SG

Then also allow to express my artistic a bit also:- Is it a very good"sia" with an afterglow smile of satisfaction or a diabolical manical smile of glee and added effect of wringing of both hands! So "very good" can be interpreted either way and not very helpful. The end product "man" is flawed either way.

I think I asked this before. When God finished creating man and woman on Day Six, what did He say? That is was all "Very Good". Can you understand what that means? Not just "good" as in the previous 5 days, but "very good" sia!

Weychin SG

I would welcome you presentation of Antony Flew arguments, in fact I would think any less if it were the argument of your own. The rationality of your arguments can bolster your conviction, but you conviction does'nt automatically mean your position correct. As explained we can fall in either extremes nihilism or eternalism which Buddhism is not! Buddhism is the Middle Way!

You said "Just as there s no eternal soul the is no permanent god or creator."

What is the basis of the above statement, and why do you think it is true? Atheists like Anthony Flew (before his leaving atheism) would have agreed with the above statement.

Weychin SG

Actually God does not need defending, God can anything you want to be. If God is good then just let yourself be good. If you as a human being is flawed that accept that you are created flawed.
The god we have conversed about is ver.1.0 god in the Old Testament. There also the improved ver.1.1 and other updated versions in New Testament which talk of love and forgiveness; but still with strings attached.
What you have not realised is that you are just defending “Self” , your beliefs, your world view, your conviction, your existence.

[imdestinyz] SG

that sounded like 中庸之道

BroInChrist SG

don't know, but sound frictional/mythical again, like the 女娲 Nüwa. like Marvel comic book. i mean the 7 days part. no offense.

Again, other than you calling it fictional or mythical you have give no reasons why. Perhaps you wish to back up such claims and assertions? One could also dismiss all narrated exploits or teachings of Buddhism as mere fiction too, right?

BroInChrist SG

Again you failed to note that I have repeatedly mentioned that we are now living in a fallen world. It is not that violence is good per se, it is that it is now part of a fallen world.

BroInChrist SG

Just because there are two interpretation, surely it does not mean both are equally true. Only one interpretation can be correct or both wrong. Again there is nothing in Genesis 1 to suggest that man is a flawed product. And neither have you provided the evidence for that.

BroInChrist SG

1. The reason why I am not a perfect being is because I am a descendent of Adam and inherited his sin nature. So did you, and every other human being for that matter.

2. To speak of a Ver 1.0 or Ver 1.1 God is to distort the Scriptures and to misunderstand them.

3. Yes, I am defending my beliefs, just as you are defending yours. You are either promoting your views, or defending them when being challenged.

BroInChrist SG

The ad hominem nature of your remarks is really unwarranted.

Anyway, you can read up Anthony Flew's argument here http://creation.com/review-there-is-a-god-by-antony-flew

and read an interview with him here http://www.biola.edu/antonyflew/

The issue is not whether it is the left, right or middle way. The issue is whether the way pointed to is the truth.

sinweiy SG

comparing the both, plausible wise, it's pretty obvious.

Steveyboy posted:

It is not out of ignorance. If you had watched the videos I posted, you will see that authentic bible scholars agree that much of the bible is fiction.

Watch this:-

The Big Question: Is the Bible still relevant today? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfDJbi5gfC0&playnext=1&list=PL22EC954EB904C8DF&feature=results_main

Dr francesca stavrakopoulou in the video above is a biblical scholar and historian. She tells us that according to archaelogy and scriptural research (meaning they look into the difference between the original Hebrew text and compare it with the modern Christian bible) concludes that much of the bible is fiction. However, majority of scholars still believe that Jesus did exist.

Weychin SG

Keying error, what I 've meant to say is that I would not any less of you if it were your views. I apologise for any distress caused unto you. I value the strength of the argument you bring.

The ad hominem nature of your remarks is really unwarranted.

Anyway, you can read up Anthony Flew's argument here http://creation.com/review-there-is-a-god-by-antony-flew

and read an interview with him here http://www.biola.edu/antonyflew/

The issue is not whether it is the left, right or middle way. The issue is whether the way pointed to is the truth.

Weychin SG

Man is created flawed in the first place, that is why degeneration takes place.

Again you failed to note that I have repeatedly mentioned that we are now living in a fallen world. It is not that violence is good per se, it is that it is now part of a fallen world.

Weychin SG

Thank you for helping put forward my point," very good" simply indicates satisfaction, we may even stretch it further to mean "perfecto" , much like a Italian kissing his fingers. But whether Man is flawed by default or design is not established, thus let us look at man and his actions ask yourselves, what is your position?

Weychin SG

Yes you are imperfect because you believe you descended from the imperfect Adam made by God who said very good! Sin nature is inherent in God's design! God was never forgiving in the Old Testament, there even the Covenant of the Ark, a fearsome machine, the New Testament is where Jesus Christ professes love and forgiveness, unless you are talking about two different Gods.

1. The reason why I am not a perfect being is because I am a descendent of Adam and inherited his sin nature. So did you, and every other human being for that matter.

2. To speak of a Ver 1.0 or Ver 1.1 God is to distort the Scriptures and to misunderstand them.

3. Yes, I am defending my beliefs, just as you are defending yours. You are either promoting your views, or defending them when being challenged.

Weychin SG

Unfortunately, you are unable to grasp “No self”, therefore, more time is actually spent on the creation myth and whether God is omniscient or imperfect owing to man being in the image of God. Violence is violence and the anger is very personal, without love and compassion, and certainly without wisdom or all this flawed creation and following destruction would not have happened in the first place. I would such an entity; powerful?yes, low eq? also yes, wisdom? No! Love and compassion? Very conditional! Why we should accept and worship such an entity!

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