Apathy is your attitude, not your answer.
The answer I am looking for is whether God exists or not, a yes
and no answer will suffice. Does the Buddha know the answer to
that? I don't care is not an answer. Saying the question is
irrelevant is just sidestepping the question. At least if you say
"I don't know" it can still be deemed an honest answer.
huh? dude, we really don't care if there is creator god or not.
More accurately, it doesn't matter to us at all. you don't get
it?
Yet I have not seen
an argument from you why our existence does not point to there
being a God! You simply assert that.
I have already given
lots of arguments for the existence of God. A painting points to a
painter. The universe points to a Creator. Things don't make
themselves. Evidence of design is all around us, in fact it is in
us! The eye is a marvel of design. It couldn't just evolve by
itself. The existence of the universe is already sufficient
evidence to show that God exists, just like the existence of a
painting is sufficient to prove that a painter exists. I certainly
cannot convince someone who refuses to be convinced, but I believe
my arguments have been persuasive and compelling. Staunch atheist
Anthony Flew saw the evidence for God from the design in living
things and finally gave up resisting the conclusion that there is a
God. Neither do I agree with you that there are loopholes in my
arguments, and you have not demonstrated them either.
"Yet I have
not seen an argument from you why our existence does not point to
there being a God!" -> huhh??? why not from outer space? why not
from this why not from that? this is exactly the reason why we are
apathic to whether god exists or not. we focus on working our
liberation.
You are right
in observing that belief in God is at the core of my faith. The
question then is whether God exists or not. If He does, and you
decide to ignore that, then all your cultivation of mind and action
will come to naught because you failed to find out what God
requires of you. But if God does not exist, I won't be any worse
off because in Christianity there is also a cultivation of mind and
action. The Christian has no objection to the 8 fold path as
commendable and good moral values, the only thing I see is that it
is impossible to keep them perfectly. Beauty is in the eye of the
beholder. As for me, the crux of the issue is whether the claims
made are true.
"If He does,
and you decide to ignore that, then all your cultivation of mind
and action will come to naught because you failed to find out what
God requires of you."-> come to naught? you know? so, all the
good morals and actions don't mean anything?
"The Christian
has no objection to the 8 fold path as commendable and good moral
values, the only thing I see is that it is impossible to keep them
perfectly." -> did
you read my reply on another thread? is it really impossibe or lack
of wiil? Wait.. Did you confuse precepts and eightfold path?
Eightfold path says right view, right speech etc. to set the
context and us to fill in the contents. For example, lets say I'm
vegetarian. Today I eat choy sam, tomorrow mushroom, the following
day broccoli. All vegetarian. What's perfect vegetarian?
Also, precepts aids our eightfold path and they're are
not exhaustive. You understand?
"As for me,
the crux of the issue is whether the claims made are true" ->
likewise for us about claims made in the bible.
