(Zen Master Dae Kwan, Zen Master Dae Kwang, and
translator)
The other day, I asked Emanrohe about the 'talk by zen master
dae kwang'. That's strange, I don't know who zen master dae kwang
is but his name pops up in mind and i just typed it out, later I
re-checked, the website says its zen master dae bong's talk. So I
sent a second sms and told him my error, it's actually zen master
dae bong's talk.
But anyway, today it turns out zen master dae kwang was indeed
giving a speech.
Halfway through, the thunder started to sound.. Someone asked a
question, he said "can you hear the thunder?" *thunder claps* "that
is it! that is the answer from Buddha (laughter)" And five more
questions came - what is enlightened person, who can become
enlightened, how to practice and become enlightened, all dharmas
return to one one returns to what?, etc.
And his answer to each question was, "did you hear the
thunder?"
Then it started to rain, it got so loud that he stopped speaking
and we just sat there. The rain itself becomes the dharma talk...
so everyone sat there in meditation... the zen master sat very
still. Just the sound of dripping rain filling the whole
universe... the sound enjoying and hearing itself... that's Buddha,
clear and blissful.
Then after 20 minutes he began to speak. He said you don't need
to remember anything I said... the rain is the best dharma talk. So
the talk ended, 15 minutes early.
It was still raining and I got a chance to chat with him a
little.
I told him two years ago, I was contemplating on the Bahiya
Sutta and that led to an awakening - in the seen, there is just the
seen, in the heard there is just the heard, in the cognized just
the cognized. When for you, Bahiya, there is in the seen just the
seen, in the heard just the heard, in the cognized just the
cognized, there is no you in terms of that, no you in there, no you
here, and no you in-between. Just that is the end of suffering.
Then I realized, oh, this entire notion of a self, a seer that is
seeing the seen is entirely illusory! There is in seeing just the
seen, seeing IS the seen only. No subject and object, inside or
outside.
He smiled and said "Precisely! That's why I asked - did you hear
the thunder?"
I said, "But I still have discursive thoughts sometimes, I feel
my practice is still lacking. What do you say about it?"
He said thoughts are not a problem, it's the natural functioning
of the mind - Buddha's sutras all came from his thinking. Just
don't be attached to thoughts, that's all.
I asked him a few more questions... like, how long do you advise
people to do meditation everyday?
He said 24 hours.
I asked, what about sitting meditation?
He said maybe 20 minutes in the morning, then the rest of the
day also Just Do It.
I say in acting 100% action, no you remaining. He agreed and
said no you practicing either. No inside, no outside, just do
it.
I thanked him, bowed and left.
