Electronic Pest Repeller - prevent killing at home

last SG · 2011-09-14T18:02:30+00:00

Please have some form of scientific knowledge. The Buddha says one must not have any form of ignorance. Right view and right thoughts are the key to wisdom.U...

yhjow SG

from the dhammapada 183. i don't see where it specifically says what constitutes good and bad.

If you read Mahayana Buddhist text, they specifically laid out the 10 evils negative karma 十惡業.

They are:

1. Killing 殺生

2. Stealing 偷盜

3. Sexual Misconduct 邪淫

4. Lying 妄語

5. Speaking behind other's back and causing others to have conflicts (including spreading rumours) 兩舌

6. Flattery and Fawning others with dishonest beautiful words 綺語

7. Harsh speech (scolding, bad-mouth, vugarity) 惡口

8. Greed 貪

9. Hatred 嗔

10. Ignorance 痴

The opposite of the above are known as "10 Good Karma" 十善業, which most buddhist practise.

1. No killing.

2. No stealing

3. No sexual misconduct

4. No lying

5. No speaking behind one's back and causing others to have conflicts

6. No flattery or fawning others with dishonest beautiful words

7. No harsh speech

8. Generosity

9. Loving-kindness/Compassion

10. Wisdom

Other precepts taken to prevent evils include:

No intoxications such as alcohols, smoking, drugs, gambling, prostitution or any form of addictions.

whylikethatah SG

If you read Mahayana Buddhist text, they specifically laid out the 10 evils negative karma 十惡業.

They are:

1. Killing 殺生

2. Stealing 偷盜

3. Sexual Misconduct 邪淫

4. Lying 妄語

5. Speaking behind other's back and causing others to have conflicts (including spreading rumours) 兩舌

6. Flattery and Fawning others with dishonest beautiful words 綺語

7. Harsh speech (scolding, bad-mouth, vugarity) 惡口

8. Greed 貪

9. Hatred 嗔

10. Ignorance 痴

The opposite of the above are known as "10 Good Karma" 十善業, which most buddhist practise.

1. No killing.

2. No stealing

3. No sexual misconduct

4. No lying

5. No speaking behind one's back and causing others to have conflicts

6. No flattery or fawning others with dishonest beautiful words

7. No harsh speech

8. Generosity

9. Loving-kindness/Compassion

10. Wisdom

Other precepts taken to prevent evils include:

No intoxications such as alcohols, smoking, drugs, gambling, prostitution or any form of addictions.

yeah, i have to definitely read that Mahayanist text in order to know what's good and bad. *ahem ahem* :p Thanks.

Dawnfirstlight SG

now u're attacking me on my understanding of 'good' and 'bad' and u're saying i don't necessarily know the meaning of both, just because i'm not a 'true buddhist' in someone else's words. if one doesn't know what they mean, then even buddha cannot help that fellow. buddha is only the teacher and his teachings the guide, but they don't necessarily spell out everything in detail for ignoramuses.

from the dhammapada 183. i don't see where it specifically says what constitutes good and bad.

Yes, I'm saying the truth and not attacking. I can confidently say that if a person is not a true Buddhist and listen to dharma talks, he will never know what is real good and what is real bad. Buddha is the only wise and enlightened one on earth who knows what is real good and real bad. Most of us are not enlightened and we always use the wrong judgement on what is good and bad.

If you still insist that you know better than Buddha, then carry on and I'll tell you the path to hell is always paved with "good intentions". Our definition of "good " is very far off from Buddha's definition of good.

whylikethatah SG

Irrelevant remarks

RemifanSo SG

For general knowledge. Cockroaches very good in hiding at the corners, damp places, and even torn plastic borders in fridge. Pengsa good in killing cockroaches.

Does Buddhism allow killing of harmful pests?

realization SG

The teaching regarding Karma is not "majority opinion". It's quite simply, the teaching of the Buddha.

yhjow SG

Does Buddhism allow killing of harmful pests?

Buddhism generally advocates no killing of any visible sentient beings. That includes harmful pests, venomous snakes, fierce beasts such as lions, tigers etc.

The Buddha once talked about endless lives in this world and other worlds. He pointed to a cup of water and said that there were eighty four thousand lives in the water (84,000 signifies a large quantity). Today, scientifically, we have understood that the cups of water has millions of mico living organisms under a microscope.

An often perplexing question posted to many buddhist venerables (dharma teacher) is that if we cook or drink the water, wouldn't buddhist be killing the micro-organism (i.e. sentient beings)? Also, certain medicine today kills bacteria to treat diseases. However, it is understood that some of these micro-organism or bacteria do not have any minds. The Buddha has forbidden his disciples (arhat) to use their supernatural (psychic) power to see these micro-organism and thus drinking these water is actually allowed. Thus, as long as the sentient beings cannot be seen with normal naked eyes, we can assume that it's ok to drink the water. Buddhism only discourages killing any sentient beings that can be seen with normal naked eyes.

Aik TC SG

Many on this thread have provided more than enough information on the subject karma and Whylikethatah have made it quite clear his opinion on the subject as well. I do not believe any more well intention advice and information is going to change his opinion. I think we should all just leave him alone to do his good deeds, reap whatever merits that come his way in this life and in all his future one as well.

Can we also please refrain from anymore further personal attacks as well and stick to the subject matter?

By the way, RemifanSo, in Buddhism all sentient beings, big or small, living in hiding or elsewhere, have as much right to life as any others sentient beings in this world.

realization SG

accidental post.

whylikethatah SG

See what i mean? deleted my posts again. dawnfirstlight doesn't have to worry about her(i presume) posts being moderated or deleted, because it's a safe haven for her here. it seems to me that my mere suggestion that she could be a 'backstabber' at work is seen to be more serious than her comment supposing that i would 'go to hell' with my 'good intentions'. keep it up, mods.

BanguIzai SG

i have not killed almost any insects on purpose, not even an ant, for many years, and also prevented myself from stepping accidentally or crushing them by cautiously avoiding them. And I realised the good karma effect: although i am a very messy person and my room is rather messy, I realised that I have not noticed even one ant in my room at all, even though i can eat and drink in my room. thus, i have found out the action of protecting them from harm brings me protection from their harm in return.

Aik TC SG

I think you should not take Dawnfirstlight proverb “The path (road) to hell is paved with good intentions” to literally mean you would “go to hell”.

The Wikipedia gives three meanings on this proverb and none have anything to do with “hell”. The three meanings are:

Individuals may do bad things even though they intend the results to be good.

That good intentions may not necessarily resulted in a good outcome because of inaction due to procrastination, laziness or other subversive vice.

Or, it could also mean that good ideas or thoughts lead to negative consequences that were unintended. A person begins with good thoughts, promising to themselves to do the right thing, however, priorities in life change, time become a limiting factor, and alas, the good intentions go astray.

Let’s try to keep our comments as friendly as possible please. I do not believe any of the moderators on this site would show any favouritism to anyone whether one is a Buddhist or a non-Buddhist alike.

Dawnfirstlight SG

Ha ha..... so you are back to this forum with a different nick. 换汤不换药 (it means change the soup but did not change the medicine).

Dawnfirstlight SG

I think you should not take Dawnfirstlight proverb “The path (road) to hell is paved with good intentions” to literally mean you would “go to hell”.

The Wikipedia gives three meanings on this proverb and none have anything to do with “hell”. The three meanings are:

Individuals may do bad things even though they intend the results to be good.

That good intentions may not necessarily resulted in a good outcome because of inaction due to procrastination, laziness or other subversive vice.

Thanks Aik. Anyway, we know this person well. He likes to interpret words in his own way. Not just my words but Buddha's words.

Dawnfirstlight SG

I'm glad you see Buddha's teachings. There is this story which I don't remember the exact story. There was this person who asked Buddha or Bodhisattva (can't remember exactly who) he asked Buddha why whenever animals saw him, the animals would run as if they were running for their life whereas animals would not run when they saw Buddha. Buddha said it was because the animals could sense who were the ones cultivate no killings and they felt no harm so they would not run away.

Dawnfirstlight SG

This is a true story. It happened in the village where I was staying when I was young. There was this relative who was "skilful" in killing chickens and ducks. Neighbours would come and ask for her help and praised her for being helpful in helping them to kill chickens. Ignorantly she thought she was being helpful and doing good deeds by helping the neighbours to kill the chickens and ducks. Her "good intentions" had actually advanced her early passing at the age of early forties. It is a long story if I want to explain why I said so. So, I'll just cut the story short. Buddha said if one wish to live a long healthy life, one should refrain from killings especially for those already with some illnesses.

« Previous Page