Taking some posts after
mine:
Hinduism was used in relation
to this remark //"Buddhism is evolved out of
Hinduism."// made by
<TrueReppuzan> .
I made a long statement, not
a short phrase:
“Looking at early Buddhism, the Indus
Valley civilization, the Buddha’s interactions with Brahmins, his
teachers or gurus in the 6 years of wandering, his knowledge of
Vedas and some doctrines, I can safely say that even without deep
knowledge of Hinduism, Buddhism is influenced by
it.”
In case people here do not know – Vedas and
Brahmanism is the fore-runner of Hinduism. My learned friend
who studied Hinduism had kept his noble silence here! And if
you read carefully – ‘Indus Valley civilization’, ‘interactions
with Brahmins’, ‘knowledge of Vedas and its doctrines’, there can
be no doubt that the Buddha’s teaching was influenced by Hinduism -
the successor of vedic-brahmanism.
Picking the one short phrase
“Buddhism is influenced by it.” after the
end of the contextual paragraph is really shallow. I
can see some are very good in picking pickles to side-track their
disagreement – pathetic pedantry.
That the Buddha was well
versed in vedic teachings were demonstrated by his ability to
handle questions from Brahmins as well as his objections to some
practices such as caste. However, ideology like karma, rebirth and
past lives were vedic and Buddha had used them to formulate his own
concepts. By influence, it does not mean copy wholesale!
It is fine by me if you don’t
like the word ‘hate’. To me, “hate to admit” simple means strong
desire not to admit.
Going back to square 1,
no one has commented or ask for clarification in my two significant
posts in which I laid the context of why Buddhism began as a
philosophy and became a religion. Please search
yourself and tell me how empty you are!
The Indian subcontinent has a highly developed ideologies in
place during Buddha's time,which formed the basis for the
Lord Buddha to contemplate. As the ideologies were
unsatisfactory, other concepts and views are needed.
Now, the concepts of Anatta or No Self is diametrically
different from the other ideologies, also concept of karma are not
quite the same, since there is assertion of no self to begin with.
As for the philosophy, it is necessary to explain the concepts in
the already existing vocabluary and in context of the current
philosophies. Certain concepts are similar but not the same also
goals are different.
[ Philosophy is
the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those
connected with existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and
language.[1][2] It is
distinguished from other ways of addressing such problems by its
critical, generally systematic approach and its reliance
on rational argument.[3] The word
"philosophy" comes from the Greek φιλοσοφία (philosophia),
which literally means "love of wisdom".[4][5][6]] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy
Organised religion for Buddhist begins when you need house the
Sangha and when you need the laity as devotees to support the
monastic community. If you are an ascetic, is asking for alms
considered an act of religious activity?
[Religion is
a collection of cultural
systems, belief systems,
and worldviews that establishes
symbols that relate humanity to spirituality and moral
values.[1] Many
religions have narratives, symbols, traditions and sacred histories that are
intended to give meaning to life or to
explain the origin of life or
the universe. They tend to derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a
preferred lifestyle from
their ideas about the cosmos and human nature.
The word religion is sometimes used
interchangeably with faith or belief system, but religion differs from
private belief in that it has a public aspect. Most religions have
organized behaviors,
including clerical hierarchies, a definition of what
constitutes adherence or membership, congregations of laity, regular meetings or services for the purposes
of veneration of a deity or for prayer, holy places (either natural or
architectural), and/or scriptures. The practice of a religion
may also include sermons, commemoration of the activities of
a god or gods, sacrifices, festivals, feasts, trance, initiations,funerary services, matrimonial services, meditation, music, art, dance, public service, or other
aspects of human culture.
The development of
religion has taken different forms in different cultures.
Some religions place an emphasis on belief, while others emphasize
practice. Some religions focus on the subjective experience of the
religious individual, while others consider the activities of the
religious community to be most important. Some religions claim to
be universal, believing their laws and cosmology to be binding for everyone, while
others are intended to be practiced only by a closely defined or
localized group. In many places religion has been associated with
public institutions such as education, hospitals, thefamily, government, and political hierarchies.
Some academics studying the
subject have divided religions into three broad
categories: world religions, a
term which refers to transcultural,international faiths; indigenous
religions, which refers to smaller, culture-specific or
nation-specific religious groups; and new religious
movements, which refers to recently developed
faiths.[2] One modern
academic theory of religion, social constructionism,
says that religion is a modern concept that suggests
all spiritual practice
and worship follows a model similar to
the Abrahamic
religions as an orientation system that helps to interpret
reality and define human beings,[3] and thus
religion, as a concept, has been applied
inappropriately to non-Western cultures that are not based
upon such systems, or in which these systems are a substantially
simpler construct]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion