Decline Of Buddhism In Singapore

last SG · 2011-02-20T01:14:26+00:00

decline of Buddhism was predicted by the Buddha isnt it. also it goes to show that the law of impermanence is true. no country or religion stay the same fore...

Dawnfirstlight SG

dawnlight, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnYUCweZkhA

to be exact: look at 10.6 min onwards

Anymore excuses?

I don't have the time to watch. Can you tell me which part mentioned God manifest as Buddha ? If yes, from now onwards I keep my mouth shut on this topic about MCK. He said Buddhists called God as 法性, Buddha said everyone has 法性, so we are all God, potential God. MCK mentioned there is only one God which is very wrong because Buddha said all sentiment beings have 法性.

MCK mentioned only 1 God which was very wrong because Buddha said there are 33 levels of heavens, there are many gods.

likeyou SG

I will be a buddhist for my whole life till death.

Whenever I walk, my mind will auto switch to chanting in my heart.

WeeShun SG

weychin,

Nobody is aganist compassion, peace and harmony. Did I even suggest starting a war aganist non-buddhist religions and their believers? I suggested we respect them and their beliefs. So intolerance was never a point here.

What's the problem here now is he has imported non-buddhist teachings into Buddhism and what's worst? instead of complementing Buddhist teachings, such teachings he imported in goes aganist the basic tenets of the Buddhist Faith.

The Buddha was never a God nor an incarnate of God, this is a well known belief shared by Buddhists across all traditions and the Buddha was aganist the belief of a "Almighty God" in control of all human beings. Such a belief in God should never be mixed into the flow of Buddhism.

Secondly, according to Pureland Buddhist teachings, all purelanders rely on the name of Amituofo and his vow power to gain rebirth in the Pureland, there are various options from the ten recitation methods for purelanders ranging from mouth recitation to samadhi or visualisation recitation but again Ven Jing Kong is now promoting that we can rely on the bible and quran and gain rebirth in Amituofo's Pureland, this is untrue of what the Buddha nor all pureland grandmasters taught. Purelanders singlely and wholeheartly rely on Amituofo and not on bibical nor quranic teachings. Almost all well learned Purelanders knows that Pureland is not Heaven. Neither Buddhism nor Christianity/ Islam offered rebirth in Pureland either ways but a new age teaching by Ven Jing Kong again.

Get it clear again, weychin. this is not a case of disharmony, intolerance or religious bashing and never a religion was ever bashed in all my replies. The root problem now is the purity of the Buddha's teachings !

No discrimination to any religons nor scriptures here but respecting common spaces and importing them into Buddhism and thus making Buddhism more and more unclear is the problem now.

As a Buddhist, we rely ONLY on the triple gems. is this call discrimation ???

namo amituofo

Dawnfirstlight SG

I will be a buddhist for my whole life till death.

Whenever I walk, my mind will auto switch to chanting in my heart.

Glad to hear that.

WeeShun SG

10.6 onwards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnYUCweZkhA

Incase you say u cannot hear it, I am typing it in chinese word for word from the video itself for you.

我确确实实肯定：宇宙之间只有一个真神，那个真神千变万化，万德万能。那么在佛教里面不称为神，佛教称法性？

真神只有一個，在佛教變成佛陀；在基督教變成耶穌；在伊斯蘭教變真主！我确确实实肯定宇宙之间只有一個真神。所有宗教的神圣都是这个真神的化身。所以耶稣是释迦牟尼的化身，释迦牟尼也是「耶稣的化身，上帝的使者。

I suggest you finish the whole clip to be fair to Ven Jing Kong n yourself.

likeyou SG

Glad to hear that.

Thanks, I am not telling lies, it is true, even when I have no worry or trouble over work, I still chant in my heart.

WeeShun SG

likeyou, then its very very good. Keep mindfulness of the Buddha in your heart every moment and peace will be with you.

Just wholeheartely alone on the Buddha is sufficient, no need other God, gods, deities.

likeyou SG

Thanks Wee.

That is probably why I am able to work till past midnite alone in alone in the office and not scare cos I nvr hurt or have any evil intention on my heart.

WeeShun SG

Yes! this is the Happiness and Peace you have found through the Buddha. If anyone should you come across, make sure you share with them this Peace you have found, you yourself is a living testimony to lead more people around you together to find Peace in oneself through Buddhism.

likeyou SG

My work place has a muslim where he told me buddha portrait looks scary. I just keep quiet. I hv another colleague, a free thinker, brushes aside all those religions and ghosts, saying all is faked.

WeeShun SG

《涅槃经》云：“若归依三宝，是谓正近事，终不应归依，诸馀天神等。”

《善生经净三归品》云：
　　（一）受三归已，造作痴业，受外道法自在天语，以是因缘，失于三归。
　　（二）若有造作种种杂业，为受乐故，修于善事，如市场法（好比市场作买卖，以求利为先），其心不能怜悯众生，如是之人不得三归。
　　（三）若人信其（神）能救一切怖畏，礼拜外道，是人则失三归依法。

《涅槃经》云：归依于僧伽，不共外道住。

WeeShun SG

宗教和平≠宗教融合－－評淨空法師■ 瞿宗樺

　　「所有一切宗教徒，我們都是一家人。為什麼？各個不同宗教的那個神，創始人，都是真神的化身，一個人的化身。真神千變萬化，適應於各個不同地區，建立各種不同的教學方法，內容都是一致的，就是佛教我們怎樣做人。剛才阿訇講得非常清楚，他講的跟佛經講的沒有兩樣。所以統統許許多多神是一個神的化身，一家人，千萬不要誤會。．．．(中略)．．．所以今天我們首先要把事實真相了解清楚，知道所有不同宗教的創始人，像在佛教釋迦牟尼，西方宗教的耶穌、摩西，伊斯蘭的穆罕默德，中國的孔子，都是一個真神的化身，變化在各個不同族群、不同的地區來教化眾生。。．．．(中略)．．．所有宗教裡面的神明都是釋迦牟尼的化身，我怎麼可以不拜！釋迦牟尼佛在佛教裡叫釋迦牟尼佛，在基督教叫耶穌，在伊斯蘭教叫穆罕默德，他換了個名字，實際上是一個人。」　　節錄自：釋淨空《宗教與生活》　講話於2003.3.1. 巴布亞新幾內亞文殊精舍

　　「諸佛世尊皆出人間，不在天上成佛也。」《增一阿含經》。

　　佛陀乃是由人道證入「無我」而成就「覺者」(Buddha)，並不是神或真神，雖然佛陀並沒有否定天人(神)的存在，但是佛陀並不同意這世界有唯一的、獨創的「真神」，因此與天人之間是不能相提並論、比較誰高誰低的。淨空法師的這篇講話，開宗明義地就說明佛陀與真神無二，違背了佛陀的中心思想：緣起、無我。

　　或許有人提出經典記載：「應以何身得度者，即現何身而為說法。」《妙法蓮華經》

　　反問在佛傳故事中佛陀及梵天不是經常化生不同樣的形象來渡化大眾嗎？因此以耶穌身得渡者，即現耶穌身而為說法，淨空法師曾經說過，因為觀世音菩薩應以何身得渡者，即現何身而為說法。所以我們到教堂，可以把耶穌，上帝視為觀世音菩薩的「化身」，即然是觀世音菩薩的化身，那入境隨俗又何嘗不可呢？更何況宗教融合、大家和平共處不也是功德一件嗎？

　　首先，「應以何身得度者，即現何身而為說法。」是要以受教者的同等身分，來教導並引入佛陀的言教，而不是到了耶教新教徒的教堂，拜了耶穌像後，指稱耶穌是佛陀的化身，而不闡述佛教的八正道法以及四聖諦。五教的教主皆為同一體的說法，這是一貫道還是天道的說法．認同五教教主同一體的話，是不是也要認同別教的教義呢？

　　在印度佛教的末期，佛教徒們把三位一體的濕婆(Shiva)、大梵天(Brahma)和毘濕奴(Vishnu)，當成佛祖(Primordial Buddha)下凡後的化身，而且在佛教徒的宇宙進化論中，這三位一體的神還佔了重要的一席之地。另一方面，印度教徒同樣也把喬達摩佛陀(Gautama Buddha)當作昆濕奴的一個化身，也因此印度佛教走向滅亡的命運。

　　如果「宗教融合」的定義是：佛教即是基督教即是印度教即是道教即是回教即是一切教，就像大便和味噌，雖然都是黃色的，看起來、摸起來也差不多，不過通通攪和在一起，還是令人難以消受。

　　佛陀教化善生，也沒有跟著善生一起拜六方，宗教和平相處是有必要之處，大可從相應之處著手；例如滅三毒（貪瞋痴）與耶教的不犯七宗罪（好慾、妒忌、貪婪、驕傲、饕餮、憤怒及怠惰）有點相應，大家何不在此點互相督促精進，讓塵歸塵、土歸土、上帝歸上帝、佛陀歸佛陀、該誰的就歸誰的，大家平平坐，一起吃果果，彼此和平共處。

realization SG

宗教和平≠宗教融合－－評淨空法師 ■ 瞿宗樺

「所有一切宗教徒，我們都是一家人。為什麼？各個不同宗教的那個神，創始人，都是真神的化身，一個人的化身。真神千變萬化，適應於各個不同地區，建立各種不同的教學方法，內容都是一致的，就是佛教我們怎樣做人。剛才阿訇講得非常清楚，他講的跟佛經講的沒有兩樣。所以統統許許多多神是一個神的化身，一家人，千萬不要誤會。．．．(中略)．．．所以今天我們首先要把事實真相了解清楚，知道所有不同宗教的創始人，像在佛教釋迦牟尼，西方宗教的耶穌、摩西，伊斯蘭的穆罕默德，中國的孔子，都是一個真神的化身，變化在各個不同族群、不同的地區來教化眾生。。．．．(中略)．．．所有宗教裡面的神明都是釋迦牟尼的化身，我怎麼可以不拜！釋迦牟尼佛在佛教裡叫釋迦牟尼佛，在基督教叫耶穌，在伊斯蘭教叫穆罕默德，他換了個名字，實際上是一個人。」　　節錄自：釋淨空《宗教與生活》　講話於2003.3.1. 巴布亞新幾內亞文殊精舍

「諸佛世尊皆出人間，不在天上成佛也。」《增一阿含經》。

佛陀乃是由人道證入「無我」而成就「覺者」(Buddha)，並不是神或真神，雖然佛陀並沒有否定天人(神)的存在，但是佛陀並不同意這世界有唯一的、獨創的「真神」，因此與天人之間是不能相提並論、比較誰高誰低的。淨空法師的這篇講話，開宗明義地就說明佛陀與真神無二，違背了佛陀的中心思想：緣起、無我。

或許有人提出經典記載：「應以何身得度者，即現何身而為說法。」《妙法蓮華經》

反問在佛傳故事中佛陀及梵天不是經常化生不同樣的形象來渡化大眾嗎？因此以耶穌身得渡者，即現耶穌身而為說法，淨空法師曾經說過，因為觀世音菩薩應以何身得渡者，即現何身而為說法。所以我們到教堂，可以把耶穌，上帝視為觀世音菩薩的「化身」，即然是觀世音菩薩的化身，那入境隨俗又何嘗不可呢？更何況宗教融合、大家和平共處不也是功德一件嗎？

首先，「應以何身得度者，即現何身而為說法。」是要以受教者的同等身分，來教導並引入佛陀的言教，而不是到了耶教新教徒的教堂，拜了耶穌像後，指稱耶穌是佛陀的化身，而不闡述佛教的八正道法以及四聖諦。五教的教主皆為同一體的說法，這是一貫道還是天道的說法．認同五教教主同一體的話，是不是也要認同別教的教義呢？

在印度佛教的末期，佛教徒們把三位一體的濕婆(Shiva)、大梵天(Brahma)和毘濕奴(Vishnu)，當成佛祖(Primordial Buddha)下凡後的化身，而且在佛教徒的宇宙進化論中，這三位一體的神還佔了重要的一席之地。另一方面，印度教徒同樣也把喬達摩佛陀(Gautama Buddha)當作昆濕奴的一個化身，也因此印度佛教走向滅亡的命運。

如果「宗教融合」的定義是：佛教即是基督教即是印度教即是道教即是回教即是一切教，就像大便和味噌，雖然都是黃色的，看起來、摸起來也差不多，不過通通攪和在一起，還是令人難以消受。

佛陀教化善生，也沒有跟著善生一起拜六方，宗教和平相處是有必要之處，大可從相應之處著手；例如滅三毒（貪瞋痴）與耶教的不犯七宗罪（好慾、妒忌、貪婪、驕傲、饕餮、憤怒及怠惰）有點相應，大家何不在此點互相督促精進，讓塵歸塵、土歸土、上帝歸上帝、佛陀歸佛陀、該誰的就歸誰的，大家平平坐，一起吃果果，彼此和平共處。

真神 = 佛性？ Not sure what to think of this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUKZNrG9hE8

realization SG

Oh sorry, I missed out on the dialogue that transpired in the afternoon. I've only just read those.

I found this video earlier this morning and was pretty troubled by what I saw and heard in it. Was planning to listen to it properly one more time before sharing it with others. Didn't realize WeeShun already shared it earlier in the day to quite some detail.

WeeShun SG

this is why we need to create awareness to more buddhists not to be misguided by unbuddhistic teachings and beliefs before such beliefs become the mainstream buddhist belief.

Namo Amituofo.

Dawnfirstlight SG

I will watch the clip on this weekend. I'm surprised that he said that. The sutra said the other way round, it should be Buddha manifest into gods inorder to preach to them. There must be a limit to inter-religious peace making. Cannot twist just to make peace with other religion. That is something which I will not agree with.

WeeShun SG

keep an open mind, don't just listen to one clip, read up, research more from a non-biased view only then you will see the truth.

This is when "die hard" fans of Ven Jingkong will say ..... its skillful means.

As I said, keep an open mind ~ you will see the truth, don't swallow anything I say or people say, you are not a puppet, you have the ability to think, investigate and conclude for yourself what is Buddhism and what is not.

Namo Amituofo ~

reborn76 SG

hi guys

saw an interesting video on how two taiwanese Buddhist nuns converted to christianity. I think is a good video for buddhist to reflect on what individual and the community as a whole need to do.

In the video, I notice there are some wrong views which they held to when they are a nun that result in their conversion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1Q8cEvW6Zk&feature=related

WeeShun SG

thanks for sharing but to for those Buddhists who consider Jesus as a manifestation of another Bodhisattva, i think they will not be bothered by it.

Dawnfirstlight SG

hi guys

saw an interesting video on how two taiwanese Buddhist nuns converted to christianity. I think is a good video for buddhist to reflect on what individual and the community as a whole need to do.

In the video, I notice there are some wrong views which they held to when they are a nun that result in their conversion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1Q8cEvW6Zk&feature=related

I watched this video before. See my comments on page 2 of this youtube but was flagged as spam but still able to read if you clicked onto it. This nun was out to mislead others.

If you continue to watch other episode,she mentioned in Buddhism, there was a saying : If the hell is not empty, we will never become Buddha. Come on, true Buddhists know it is 地藏菩萨's vow and not referring to us. She was out to twist the fact. Watch the video clip below, fast forward to 7:00 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvN-8aRJS6M&feature=related

Her motive of twisting the fact of Buddhism is very clear. How can a nun of over 20 years do not know that it is 地藏菩萨's vow .

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