http://www.radiantmind.net/index.php/radiantmind/written-entry/neither-mindful-nor-mindless/
The mind is to be let loose without directing. Sustaining
mindfulness is cast away without objectifying it. The mind is left
in its ordinary state without meditating. Thus, with nothing
controlling it, the mind is joyous and at ease. Gampopa
Tanya: It seems to me that what you are
offering is a form of mindfulness meditation, but extending that
into our interaction with other people and the world.
Peter: Perhaps. What do you mean by mindfulness
meditation?
Tanya: Staying aware of what we are doing in
the moment. Being aware of what I doing no matter what it is. If
I’m washing my dog being fully aware that I’m washing the dog and
not drifting off into my thoughts about the past or future.
Peter: What’s wrong with that? What’s the
problem in washing your dog and thinking about tomorrow?
Tanya: Well, I’m not being present to what is
there. I might get soap in my dog’s eyes, or more to the point, if
I’m driving, I might ram up the back side of the car in front.
Peter: Sure, in some situations, like driving
our attention should be on the road, which it generally is. But we
still don’t need to block all other thoughts. If this was a
condition for safe driving no one would have a licence. In fact, if
we didn’t think about the future there would never be a reason to
brake or accelerate.
Tanya: I don’t know about that. But I still
feel that if I’m washing my dog, I should have basically all my
attention on what’s happening.
Peter: But, what if other thoughts are part of
what is? Are those thoughts about the tomorrow or yesterday, there
(in the present) when you are washing the dog, or are they
happening at some other time?
Tanya: Yes, they are there, but they are a
distraction from being present to what is.
Peter: How is that possible if that’s what is
there?
Tanya: I see what you are saying. They are
there in the present even though they might be about the past or
future. Still, if I’m thinking about tomorrow it means that I’m not
fully appreciating what is immediately present to me.
Peter: That’s right. Perhaps your not attending
to the smell of soap and fur as you wash your dog. Instead you’re
attending to some internal imagery and thoughts about a meeting you
are having tomorrow. You’re are present to some thoughts about
something else because those are the thoughts that are there.
Specific thoughs are there to be though, so your are thinking them,
in the same way that there are visual sensations of your hands and
dog which you are perceiving. Still, I do appreciate what you are
saying. It’s just that we can give ourselves a lot of suffering by
struggling to do something different from what we are doing. This
isn’t to say that we should be doing whatever we are doing in some
moralistic or fatalistic sense. Rather it is simply recogising that
presence includes being present to thoughts, feelings, etc. that we
would prefer not to be there. Yet, interestingly, if we are also
open and honest about the fact that we have preferences, the same
thoughts and feelings can be there in a totally transparent and
uneventful way. Often we disguise our preferences by clothing them
in righteous beliefs about what we should be experiencing.
[Silence]
Peter: Are you being mindful right now?
Tanya: Yes.
Peter: Show me how you could become unaware, or
let’s say just less mindful.
Tanya: Well, I could start to free associate. I
could just let my thought drift off somewhere else. I could think
about dinner in a few hours.
Peter: Can I see you do that?
[Silence]
Tanya: I can’t do that right now.
Peter: Why?
Tanya: Because your talking to me. It’s just
not happening.
Peter: Well, I’ll stop talking a bit, and let
you do that.
[Silence]
Peter: You don’t seem to be drifting off to me.
You seem to be very much here in the work- shop setting and in
relationship with me.
Tanya: I’m not sure. I am thinking about what
we have been talking about.
Peter: So what do you think? Should you be
thinking about what we have been talking about, or should you be
thinking about something else?
Tanya: I don’t know. I guess it’s okay to be
thinking about what we are doing.
Peter: Is there something else that it would be
better to be thinking about?
Tanya: I don’t know. I don’t think so.
Peter: Is it fine to be thinking that
thought?
Tanya: Yes.
Peter: Do you think you should be sitting
here?
Tanya: I suppose so. Sure.
Peter: Do you think you should be somewhere
else?
Tanya: Well, I can think I should be somewhere
else.
Peter: Yes. And is it okay to think that
thought?
Tanya: Sure.
Peter: Would you say you are drifting off now,
on some unrelated stream of thoughts?
Tanya: No.
Peter: Are you trying to control what you are
thinking?
Tanya: No.
Peter: Is this mindfulness?
Tanya: No. At least not as I was describing it
before.
Peter: Is this being mindless-unaware of what
is happening?
Tanya: No. Certainly not.
SUE: Where is this taking us?
Peter: Wherever we go.
Charles: It’s taking us to where we are.
Peter: Where are we?
Charles: Here.
Peter: Where were you before you were here?
Charles: Here, but we might not have known we
were here.
Peter: If you didn’t know you were here, how do
you say you were here?
Charles: I don’t know.
[Silence]
James: This seems somewhat nihilistic to
me.
Peter: Is something happening?
James: Of course. This is happening.
Peter: So how is this nihilistic? Is anything
disappearing out of your experience?
James: You seem to be suggesting that we should
be just doing whatever we are doing. What about choice?
Peter: Is this in any way stopping or
suppressing anything happening? Is anything stopping you getting up
and stretching your legs or having a drink?
James: Well, only that we are in a
conversation.
Peter: The way to check out if this space is
restricting your freedom is to see what’s happen- ing now. For
example, is there anything stopping us from taking a break right
now?
James: No there isn’t.
Peter: Would you like to take a break?
James: Sure.
Peter: How about others. Would you like to take
a break now?
Others: Yes.
Peter: Well let’s do that.