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The
Venerable Dzigar Kongtrul Rinpoche speaks with Pema
Chodron.
Pema
Chödrön, an American nun in the Shambhala lineage of Tibetan
Buddhism and the author of several books, including the
best-selling When Things Fall
Apartand The Places that Scare You,
currently practices under the guidance of the Venerable Dzigar
Kongtrul Rinpoche, a teacher in the Nyingma lineage of Tibetan
Buddhism. Dzigar Kongtrul established the mountain retreat center
Longchen Jigme Samten Ling, in southern Colorado. He spends much of
his time there guiding students, with particular emphasis on
long-term retreat practice. At his retreat center last spring, Pema
Chödrön spoke with Dzigar Kongtrul about a primary obstacle
Westerners face in their practice: guilt.
Pema
Chödrön: Rinpoche,
since you’ve been living in North America for some time and know
Western mind and culture well—what do you think is the most
beneficial advice you can give to dharma students here?
Ven.
Dzigar Kongtrul Rinpoche: The
most important thing that I see Western students needing to realize
is guiltlessness.
PC: Guiltlessness?
VDKR: Yes,
guiltlessness. They need to realize that the person or the mind is,
by its very nature, innocent.
PC: Could
you explain what you mean by “innocent”?
VDKR: I
mean that from the Buddhist point of view we can understand that
all the things we do to harm ourselves and others come from
deep-rooted confusions and ignorance but that the mind is by its
very nature pure and enlightened. When we feel a tremendous amount
of guilt, we forget this view.
PC: I
think sometimes Western students have trouble believing this
view.
VDKR: The
fact that all sentient beings long for happiness and freedom proves
that the nature of their mind is pure and innocent.
PC: But
it seems that we identify more with “bad me” than with pure and
innocent.
VDKR: This
sense of “bad me” comes from not understanding the view of
selflessness that is so central to the Buddhist path. Understanding
that there is no solid, singular, or permanent “me” makes it
possible to accommodate whatever arises in life without feeling so
intimidated by our experience, without rolling over like a defeated
dog in a dogfight. We can see that things arise due to our karma
playing itself out and that it does not necessarily have to be so
personal. In this way we can identify with something greater—which
is our nature itself. From this perspective, since there is no
solid, singular, permanent self, there’s not going to be a “bad”
self to feel guilty about. Mind is innocent but influenced by
ignorance and wrong conceptual beliefs that project a self. But
there is no self.
PC: So
how do we realize selflessness?
VDKR: Mind
has an innate intelligence, and this intelligence can be
cultivated—so that one can realize selflessness—which is the
opposite of this projected “me.” This is our true
nature.
PC: With
this in mind, how do we approach that deep-rooted tendency of
feeling guilty?
VDKR: First,
just on a basic level, we can remind ourselves that guilt has no
benefit of any sort and only increases our neurotic attachment to
the self. But, more importantly, we can see that guilt is actually
the way we try to escape responsibility for our actions and
circumstances. We feel guilty when we don’t fully accept our
circumstances. Instead, we continually try to protect and cherish
this imaginary self. When we feel guilty, we are actually
substantiating this “self” even further, rather than honestly
looking at the situation in front of us. If we remember that the
mind is innocent, even though we so often act out of ignorance we
can distance ourselves from the situation enough to actually look
at it honestly. Guilt, on the other hand, is a sidetrack with no
resolution—it’s endless. You may feel like you are facing something
because you are steeped in it—kind of rubbing your nose in how very
bad it is—but actually you are not accepting it.
PC: Rinpoche,
if I’ve done something harmful and I’m not to feel guilty about it,
then how can I come to terms with what I’ve done? How can I
completely acknowledge what I’ve done and yet not feel
guilt?
VDKR: Through
means of regret. Regret is a function of mind’s intelligence. We
can see what we’ve done to cause suffering to ourselves and others.
We acknowledge what we’ve done and also resolve not to do it again.
This is very helpful. We see it clearly and acknowledge it so it
does not remain in our mind stream. To be able to self-reflect in
this way brings tremendous freedom. It’s like you stop fighting
your circumstances and look honestly. Because your view of self is
not so tightly knit, you can look without intimidation. We do this
practice of acknowledging and purifying, with deep regret about
what we’ve done to cause harm. We expose it to
ourselves.
PC: Rinpoche,
I don’t really see the difference between regret and guilt. There’s
still the sense that one has done something bad.
VDKR: The
difference between guilt and regret is that guilt never faces the
wrongdoing straightforwardly. There’s just this strong emotion of
“I wish it hadn’t happened. I wish I didn’t do it. I wish I had
never gotten angry” or “I wish I didn’t do that embarrassing
thing,” and so on. Regret is the opposite of guilt. We acknowledge
it, we expose to ourselves that we have done something harmful and
how it came about from our ignorance, but we don’t get caught in
emotions and story lines. The sense of remorse is not anywhere near
as heavy as the “bad me” that guilt produces. As a matter of fact,
the sensation of wholehearted remorse is freeing. By applying the
view of selflessness, we can see how unhelpful guilty feelings
freeze us in our perception of ourselves as “bad me.” When one
feels room to open and can see that out of ignorance, not out of an
intrinsic “bad me,” one has done something to trouble others, then
there’s no hesitation to see that. And there is no hesitation, if
it seems beneficial, to apologize.
PC: Thank
you. That certainly clarifies a lot for me. Are there other
benefits that come from reflecting on guiltlessness?
VDKR: When
one realizes guiltlessness within oneself, one feels freer and
lighter. The attachment to the self, which we all have, lifts. We
also start to work with our minds better. The mind is more agile
and flexible, because our intelligence becomes the reference point
instead of this self we so desperately grasp onto. Then we can
break down our actions more precisely and work with our actions in
more creative ways in the future, with more wisdom. In the case of
relating to the wrongdoings of others, we see that the nature of
their mind is also innocent, guiltless. Ignorance has influenced
them and they are blinded and vulnerable. And because they are
helpless under the power of ignorance, it is easier for us to
generate compassion for them and forgive them as well. It is much
easier to do all this when we see the person as innocent rather
than guilty and intrinsically bad.
PC: One
of the most important aspects of being a teacher is to point out
the student’s blind spots. How do you work with this when students
have so much trouble seeing their faults?
VDKR: This
is a good question. Ultimately, nothing significant can really take
place within the practice or within the student-teacher
relationship until the student is ready to see his or her faults
without heavy guilt. To the extent that a student wants to do this,
he or she is a practitioner. When a teacher points out these dark
hidden areas, the ignorance is being addressed and exposed for the
student’s benefit, rather than in order to increase a sense of an
intrinsic bad self. But a teacher also needs to maintain an
awareness of the true identity of the student. The teacher also
points out the student’s basic nature so that he or she can
identify with his or her own goodness, and not with guilt or
defensiveness. Then there is plenty of room to look at the hidden
corners that really are fleeting and temporary. Both student and
teacher must have an awareness of the student’s blind spots and his
or her Buddha-nature.
PC: So
the readiness to self-reflect seems to be the key here.
VDKR: The
readiness to self-reflect coupled with the greater view of
selflessness, which really makes it possible to look. When we are
able to do this, all in all, we will become much more carefree,
free of struggle.
PC: Struggle?
VDKR: Yes,
the struggle is the guilt—not wanting to look. With the view of
guiltlessness we can work with wrong or right, did or didn’t. It
doesn’t matter. We can feel free to work with that situation
without struggle. The mind is more agile because there is more
space—space to look without feeling threatened. Once guilt has
awakened, it has this extra-strength feeling of intrinsically “bad
me.” This is not helpful and not true and not in accord with the
way things are. If we bring the view of egolessness to our guilt,
it will pop the deep part of our emotional attachment to this
intrinsic “bad me.” I feel certain that realizing guiltlessness and
selflessness is very helpful for all practitioners.