How do we know (Truth)?

last SG · 2010-05-07T17:05:43+00:00

Concept of Truth in the Buddhism perspective. It is because of humans' ignorance that people think it is concept of truth in the Buddhism perspective, in fac...

Rooney9 SG

Fair enough. I categorise it as Buddhist's Truth not because I am trying to argue whether its THE truth or not, just for me to conceptualise and understand your truth. I got no problem with you thinking its THE truth also.

But for my understanding, I cant except it as THE truth.. as in its absoluteness, unless its truth in all context.

So I will just read and understand and stand in your shoes.

is old age a truth or is a buddhist truth? is death a truth or is it a buddhist truth?

BadzMaro SG

is old age a truth or is a buddhist truth? is death a truth or is it a buddhist truth?

Is 1 + 1 = 2 an absolute truth or a mathematical truth ?

Is Nirvana the truth ? Or its the truth in a buddhist perspective and a budhist truth ?

That is all I am asking and saying.

Old age, is a truth. old age.. and reincarnation is a buddhist truth.

death is truth. death and reincarnation is a buddhist truth.

Unless I am a buddhist, I will say its THe truth.

So speaking in a neutral oblique point of view you HAVE to categorise them. Or else ... people like you, which in this case, assumes that truth, means only 1 truth. And that is YOUR truth. And it will then revolve around the definition of the word TRUTH. Instead of actually looking at the point BEHIND the truth. Kapish ?Comprende ?

Rooney9 SG

Is 1 + 1 = 2 an absolute truth or a mathematical truth ?

Is Nirvana the truth ? Or its the truth in a buddhist perspective and a budhist truth ?

oh you mean god is the truth eh, so tell me about it? or is it a christian or catholic truth or perspective?

An Eternal Now SG

Is 1 + 1 = 2 an absolute truth or a mathematical truth ?

Is Nirvana the truth ? Or its the truth in a buddhist perspective and a budhist truth ?

That is all I am asking and saying.

Old age, is a truth. old age.. and reincarnation is a buddhist truth.

death is truth. death and reincarnation is a buddhist truth.

Unless I am a buddhist, I will say its THe truth.

Nirvana is experiencable - it just means the end of suffering, ignorance, through realisation. There are people even in this forum who have become enlightened and experienced Nirvana.

Reincarnation too is verifiable through direct experience, again, there are forummers who remember past lives.

Hence all these are not concepts, but truth realised in direct experience.

But I do agree that these truths are not accepted throughout all religions.

BadzMaro SG

oh you mean god is the truth eh, so tell me about it? or is it a christian or catholic truth or perspective?

Why dont u tell me ?

Because u seem to be pretty dense. Like a rock. Do I even need to tell u about it ? I am wasting my time yes ? Your propensity in wriggling in and out serves me no purpose in answering u,in regards to God and religion.

BadzMaro SG

Nirvana is experiencable - it just means the end of suffering, ignorance, through realisation. There are people even in this forum who have become enlightened and experienced Nirvana.

Reincarnation too is verifiable through direct experience, again, there are forummers who remember past lives.

Hence all these are not concepts, but truth realised in direct experience.

But I do agree that these truths are not accepted throughout all religions.

Thats why again I got no problem in understanding.

Hence, in not trying to confuse people and myself, I refer it as a Buddhist truth in that sense.

I was just interested in the above article regarding ur truth. And I will normally reply when I read a post.

Rooney9 SG

Why dont u tell me ?

tell you u also wont understand, so whats the use.

its obvious what or where you stand anyway, so what is the point. waste of time? you bet as I dunno what or why you are posting here anyway since your beliefs in your religion is so strong and unshakeable.

Rooney9 SG

Nirvana is experiencable - it just means the end of suffering, ignorance, through realisation. There are people even in this forum who have become enlightened and experienced Nirvana.

Reincarnation too is verifiable through direct experience, again, there are forummers who remember past lives.

Hence all these are not concepts, but truth realised in direct experience.

But I do agree that these truths are not accepted throughout all religions.

he wont understand what Nirvana is. some buddhists also dunno what Nirvana is even. I suppose in his mind, his concept of Nirvana is that of heaven. I dun blame him for having that concept because we know what his religion preaches.

BadzMaro SG

tell you u also wont understand, so whats the use.

U told me jack shit o.k.

There is nothing of substance coming out from you. I mean it. Seriously. Before u even attempt to pontificate, u better know ur subject matter well first.

Oh.. ? So wtf are u doing in Eternal Hope ? Is ur belief so weak that u need to attack another's religion to reassure of your ownself ? I may have strong belief in my religion and science does NOT make me intolerant , small minded and dumb. Something u seem to be full off.

Rooney9 SG

Thats why again I got no problem in understanding.

Hence, in not trying to confuse people and myself, I refer it as a Buddhist truth in that sense.

I was just interested in the above article regarding ur truth. And I will normally reply when I read a post.

the truth of the matter is this. you regard other faiths as satanic and false. so when you see this thread, you cant just help it. I know how and what you lot thinks.

Rooney9 SG

U told me jack shit o.k.

There is nothing of substance coming out from you. I mean it. Seriously. Before u even attempt to pontificate, u better know ur subject matter well first.

thank you for showing your true colours. I just knew you cant help it. case closed.

BadzMaro SG

My grandfather , grandmother and Dad is a buddhist. You really have NO idea do u. That speaks volume of your simple mindedness and habit of making sweeping bold statements.

Stop making urself look bad. I am here not because to argue about Buddhist doctrines. Its what we call understanding and perspective. Something u also seem to lack.

BadzMaro SG

thank you for showing your true colours. I just knew you cant help it. case closed.

U r welcome.

Well, u just cant handle the jandal.

BadzMaro SG

the truth of the matter is this. you regard other faiths as satanic and false. so when you see this thread, you cant just help it. I know how and what you lot thinks.

Oh.. you were a theologian, master of grammar and master of science in Eternal Hope.. now u are also psychic ? BRAVO !clap clap clap

Omniscient now ?

Seriously, u seem to be showing ur true colours too.

How come so civil here ? Because there is a mod ?

Rooney9 SG

My grandfather , grandmother and Dad is a buddhist. You really have NO idea do u. That speaks volume of your simple mindedness and habit of making sweeping bold statements.

Stop making urself look bad. I am here not because to argue about Buddhist doctrines. Its what we call understanding and perspective. Something u also seem to lack.

so what. my friends called themselves buddhist and they dun even know what does Buddha means. when I asked them have they gone thru the gui yi ceremony, they asked, what is that?

Rooney9 SG

Oh.. you were a theologian, master of grammar and master of science in Eternal Hope.. now u are also psychic ? BRAVO !clap clap clap

Omniscient now ?

Seriously, u seem to be showing ur true colours too.

How come so civil here ? Because there is a mod ?

whats the point here when in your mind, all religions are false and satanic anyway. so who is the closed minded here?

BadzMaro SG

so what. my friends called themselves buddhist and they dun even know what does Buddha means. when I asked them have they gone thru the gui yi ceremony, they asked, what is that?

Oh, so now u calling my grandma and grandad a fake buddhist. Is that what u are trying to say ? Thier daily 3 times beads prayer. All the trips to the temple and all that.. is for naught ? Wow.. WOW...

*clap clap*

yes... u are the REAL buddhist. The REAL DEAL.

Funny, I dont want to attack you with your own doctrine, but you should be smart enough to realise the raminifactions of your statements.

BadzMaro SG

whats the point here when in your mind, all religions are false and satanic anyway. so who is the closed minded here?

And that implies I am ..... ??

Paisley SG

Rooney9, you're being a troll here. Can you please get yourself out seriously? I feel that you're a sickening whiner already.

You've to talk shit for everything, be it in the Football Forum, Speakers' Corner, the Christian forum and now even here.

Are you like retarded or something?

An Eternal Now SG

*clap clap*

yes... u are the REAL buddhist. The REAL DEAL.

Funny, I dont want to attack you with your own doctrine, but you should be smart enough to realise the raminifactions of your statements.

Actually rooney has a point: a lot of so called Buddhists are not Buddhists from the first place.

They visit temples, but the temples may not be Buddhist temples but Taoist temples.

The criteria to be Buddhist is one has taken refuge (gui yi) in the triple gems.

So to clarify whether your parents are truly Buddhists, you need to ask them whether they have taken refuge.

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