I agree with you. In fact, all these worldly pleasure is nothing
compare to the pleasure in heaven. Then the pleasure in heaven is
also nothing compare to the "pleasure" of enlightenment.
The bliss of nirvana is beyond the duality of pleasure and
displeasure. (also see footnotes) The bliss of Nirvana is simply
Clarity of What Is. All pleasure and displeasure are transient
experiences, are not I or mine or have any graspable
substance/inherent existence... just the display of
luminous-emptiness. But when falsely identified and attached, it
causes suffering. When its true nature is discerned in direct
experience, it is the bliss of Nirvana.
With Clarity of What Is, there is no attempt at escaping pain,
nor is there grasping/seeking of pleasure. That pain alone is
self-liberating, there is no need to escape. Everything is
experienced in its utmost clarity -- whether pain or pleasure,
everything is experienced as it is... as the display of our true
nature, luminous-emptiness. No more trying to escape, and no more
seeking.
But life carries on, spontaneously of itself -- there is no doer
or controller... deeds happen, actions arise, but not by a self --
there is no center. Effort continues to arise to help make the
world a better place -- but it is seen there is no doer of deeds,
and there is no grasping to gain and loss as its true nature is
discerned.
It is realised in awakening that there is only ever the present
appearance of life, with no individual/self at its core who could
ever escape even if they wanted to. Everything is just the
manifestation, happening of Buddha-Nature. Nirvana is just Samsara
rightly seen.
Anyway regarding the topic, my opinion is that effort has to be
put whether in gaining worldly and supermundane wisdom, both are
important. Just like we put in a lot of effort in gaining our
education, certificates and so on... similarly real effort has to
be put to gain spiritual insights.
But whether one is more important than another is not really
correctly put, because firstly they are dealing with two important
facets of life (i.e. you can't say 'art' and 'mathematics' are
better than each other, each has its place) and it also assumes
that to gain one, one has to abandon the other. This is not true,
and relative truth and ultimate reality are not two.
As a highly realised and accomplished teacher, Daniel
Ingram a.k.a Dharma Dan said... Each person, situation, and
time is different, but carefully consider that the life you will
awaken to is the actual, ordinary life you live, so make it a good
one, and realize that when your spiritual quest is over, there is
still the laundry.
Oh and, Daniel Ingram holds a doctorate, has a high salary job
as a surgeon, and I know of other enlightened persons who also hold
high positions and earn high income, including in this forum. So
'mundane knowledge' in itself does not conflict with 'supramundane
knowledge'. However it is also true that there must be enough time
for intensive spiritual practice for faster progress.
As Daniel Ingram said, ...Thus, unless you happen to be
unusually talented, if you really want to get what the Buddha was
talking about, you will probably have to go on at least some
retreats, and probably of a few weeks each at least, and this
assumes that you will practice very well and can put aside dealing
with your "stuff", which most just don't seem willing or able to do
most of the time. While I managed to do this stuff while
having jobs, relationships, graduate studies, and the like, it was
nothing resembling easy or cheap. I gave up nearly all of my
vacation time for years to retreats, my career development was
delayed, I spent much less time doing other things so that I could
sit daily (such as TV, time with friends/family), there were
relationship stresses, money that was borrowed and often very
tight, and the like. I still think it was the right thing to do,
but I recommend being realistic about what this may cost on many
fronts, particularly if you have children, who, in my humble
opinion, deserve your time and commitment. Sometimes it takes some
time for people to gently strip their lives down a bit in healthy
and non-destructive ways to make some more time for the dharma.
Others will make radical changes and go off in wildly new
directions...
~ http://www.interactivebuddha.com/faq.shtml
Footnote article on my earlier statements on 'pleasure and
displeasure':
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an08/an08.006.than.html
"Monks, these eight worldly conditions spin after the world, and
the world spins after these eight worldly conditions. Which eight?
Gain, loss, status, disgrace, censure, praise, pleasure, &
pain. These are the eight worldly conditions that spin after the
world, and the world spins after these eight worldly
conditions.
"For an uninstructed run-of-the-mill person there arise gain,
loss, status, disgrace, censure, praise, pleasure, & pain. For
a well-instructed disciple of the noble ones there also arise gain,
loss, status, disgrace, censure, praise, pleasure, & pain. So
what difference, what distinction, what distinguishing factor is
there between the well-instructed disciple of the noble ones and
the uninstructed run-of-the-mill person?"
"For us, lord, the teachings have the Blessed One as their root,
their guide, & their arbitrator. It would be good if the
Blessed One himself would explicate the meaning of this statement.
Having heard it from the Blessed One, the monks will remember
it."
"In that case, monks, listen & pay close attention. I will
speak."
"As you say, lord," the monks responded.
The Blessed One said, "Gain arises for an uninstructed
run-of-the-mill person. He does not reflect, 'Gain has arisen for
me. It is inconstant, stressful, & subject to change.' He does
not discern it as it actually is.
"Loss arises... Status arises... Disgrace arises... Censure
arises... Praise arises... Pleasure arises...
"Pain arises. He does not reflect, 'Pain has arisen for me. It
is inconstant, stressful, & subject to change.' He does not
discern it as it actually is.
"His mind remains consumed with the gain. His mind remains
consumed with the loss... with the status... the disgrace... the
censure... the praise... the pleasure. His mind remains consumed
with the pain.
"He welcomes the arisen gain and rebels against the arisen loss.
He welcomes the arisen status and rebels against the arisen
disgrace. He welcomes the arisen praise and rebels against the
arisen censure. He welcomes the arisen pleasure and rebels against
the arisen pain. As he is thus engaged in welcoming &
rebelling, he is not released from birth, aging, or death; from
sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, or despairs. He is not
released, I tell you, from suffering & stress.
"Now, gain arises for a well-instructed disciple of the noble
ones. He reflects, 'Gain has arisen for me. It is inconstant,
stressful, & subject to change.' He discerns it as it actually
is.
"Loss arises... Status arises... Disgrace arises... Censure
arises... Praise arises... Pleasure arises...
"Pain arises. He reflects, 'Pain has arisen for me. It is
inconstant, stressful, & subject to change.' He discerns it as
it actually is.
"His mind does not remain consumed with the gain. His mind does
not remain consumed with the loss... with the status... the
disgrace... the censure... the praise... the pleasure. His mind
does not remain consumed with the pain.
"He does not welcome the arisen gain, or rebel against the
arisen loss. He does not welcome the arisen status, or rebel
against the arisen disgrace. He does not welcome the arisen praise,
or rebel against the arisen censure. He does not welcome the arisen
pleasure, or rebel against the arisen pain. As he thus abandons
welcoming & rebelling, he is released from birth, aging, &
death; from sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, &
despairs. He is released, I tell you, from suffering &
stress.
"This is the difference, this the distinction, this the
distinguishing factor between the well-instructed disciple of the
noble ones and the uninstructed run-of-the-mill person."