just now i type a lot line ,but dispear.
My experience show me the alaya ,vijjinana is ture,as some
lecturer said u got to feel it ,then testify the teaching,i have
read a lot taosim text,and i found a lot coincide with
buddhism,both emphasize on empty ,nil,no self.But in china,most of
ppl would not accept buddhism totally ,because in essence ,buddhism
carry same core as christianity ,无父无母，it can not be accepted by
mainstream of chinese culture,although ,after buddhism arrived in
china ,some part have been amended.Some monk in southern part could
marry,buddhism come into china,and form the buddhism with chinese
flavour.
the word i used smart ,really is a projection into secular world
of wisdom,i mean wisdom,after i practice Taoism or buddhism ,mainly
Taoism as foundation.I become smart and mature,that's the benefit i
get from ancient culture.If i didnt' touch the real truth of
buddhism ,it's because the cause and condition is not yet,and i am
doinng well now.So i don't really hurry into this buddhism
experience.
BTW I agree regarding Alaya Vijnana, you said "My experience
show me the alaya ,vijjinana is ture,as some lecturer said u got to
feel it ,then testify the teaching,"
This is very true :) Alaya vijnana is empty but emptiness has
nothing to do with the nihilistic view of non-existence. It's like
saying Mind, Alaya, and everything has no location (i.e. empty),
you can't find it... like what is taught in Chapter 1 of Shurangama
Sutra or the encounter with Bodhidharma that led to 2nd Patriarch's
awakening (Bodhidharma asked 2nd Patriarch to show him his Mind,
2nd Patriarch couldn't find it, and was awakened).
But you can't say Mind or propensities 'doesn't exist'! You
can't deny the Presence of Mind and all its manifestation including
our Alaya. It's only the wrong view of location and 'entities' that
is the problem, nothing is experientially denied.
What is important is to fully experience our
8th consciousness but without forming concepts of entity, location,
existence over it. As Thusness said, Propensities, Source, Forms, everything exhibit
this Emptiness nature, but it can be
known.
How? Quiet our minds, be fully aware and sense/experience our
momentum and seeds that bond us lifetime after lifetime. Be aware
of the workings of our 8th consciousness. Not just to
testify the teaching, it is actually important for our liberation
and awakening.
Both our moderators Thusness and Longchen said very similar
things from their own personal experiences:
Thusness:
Transcript
of the Lankavatara Sutra sharing by Thusness
..."The third thing is to know about the power of the momentum.
Now, the momentum will seem to react very fast only when your mind
is really not focused, when your mind is chattering, when your mind
is very busy. Your momentum will seem to be very fast. But when you
are able to settle your thoughts and see in raw, the momentum seems
to be very slow. They arise slowly, and then you can see that they
subside. This means that the speed of arising and subsiding becomes
very slow. Ok, only when you are able to see this momentum, you'll
know what "oh, I made this decision and this way of perception
because this momentum is reacting". Then, the condition is present
for you to see what reality is all about. Otherwise, reality will
always be mistaken as perception, or as an objective world, or as
an Eternal Witness. Do you all get what I mean?"
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"The momentum is so subtle that you cant see it, unless you
meditate. That is why you have to meditate. Meditation is
for you to calm yourself down so that your mind can be clear enough
to sense this patterns. This momentum. This continuous momentum
that is taking place from moment to moment. Now, why do I
want to stress this momentum? Because many people mistook reality,
because this momentum is always taking place and without being
truly mindful, you just assume it to be like that. It is a spell.
It is a magical spell that bonds. So we are blinded because of the
spell, and consciousness reacts to this spell, which is just a
bond. Just a bond. And you just cant see. And consciousness is
full of these bonds, all around, and you cant see. These bonds are
what that prevent us from understanding. Now, therefore, you have to
take the Seventh Consciousness in the Cittamatra and the Eighth
Consciousness very seriously. The conscious mind
cannot do much things. Whatever you think you have a way of doing
something can only take place not immediately. They can only take
place as a form of imprint, very deep into your consciousness.
Becomes imprint and momentum, and then resurface out as effects
only at much later dates. It always work this way. This is what one
has to understand. So now, this is the momentum that is preventing
a person from seeing."
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.
"Now, karmic propensities, forms, the Source, or the
Nature, all is Empty. This means that if you were to search this
momentum, you cannot find it. Just like the Source, it cannot be
found. You can try to pinpoint any place, any where, you cannot
locate it. This is not the nature that is peculiar to our luminous
nature. Karmic propensities, even atoms, particles, they all
exhibit this Emptiness nature. So if we were to try to understand
karmic propensities as something that is stored somewhere, when it
is stated that it is very deep, we cannot locate it, it is not
located anywhere. Same thing when we talk about
karmic propensities, when we want to understand karmic
propensities, we can only understand by Feeling them, by
Experiencing them. You cannot locate them. You cannot find them.
This is the way we must experience the propensities, and in order
to experience this, we have to be clear and we have to practise.
And that is why your senses must be sharp, clear, in order to feel
it. You cannot lie to yourself. Therefore Propensities, Source, Forms, everything
exhibit this Emptiness nature, but it can be
known.
Ok, now, until here, I do not want to formulate any theory. But I
just want to tell people that are sincere in practise, to
experience the bond. The bond is something that is very
strong, and this bond has to be eliminated. Otherwise, it is a
waste of time in practise. And it is this bond that propels you for
life after life. And if you want to understand
why this bond can propel life after life, the first thing you have
to do is to Feeeel the presence, and the strength of this bond. How
it can bond you for so many years from seeing something. You must
feel this bond, this is very important. So, when this bond
dissolves, then, your clarity can increase. Then there is clarity.
If this bond is there, there is no Seeing. So first, you must
understand that the Name, Appearance, Discrimination, and then
Knowledge. Now, we must see that it is the bonds that are actually
preventing us from seeing. And therefore, I kept emphasising that a
person has to meditate. Do not listen to people
that says you do not need meditation. You have to meditate in order
to know the truth, because it is so subtle. If your mind keeps on
jumping, it keeps on chattering, it cannot understand, it cannot
see at all. So first, you must be able to calm your mind down and
see this point. This is the bond that prevents you from
experiencing reality as You, as Mind only. This is
the bond that before you can see, they already cover a layer of
illusion, a layer of symbols that prevents you from seeing that
everything is the Mind. So when you buy in to this bond, the best
you can do is to understand that Reality is Perception, that is the
Realist point of view. When you work hard and is able to go beyond
this layer, and dissolve the bond, you will know that everything is
the Mind. By the Mind, I dont mean perception you know, I mean,
your True Nature."
Longchen:
"He mentioned
that meditation is not important. That is not true (for me)... if
one wants to discover the karmic patterns. Without meditation, the
subsconscious level of awareness is not readily accessible. And one
can experience being no one, but nevertheless much conditions and
effects are still manifesting in an unconscious manner.
"
