(9:57 PM) Bohiruci: ask u
(9:57 PM) Bohiruci: now
(9:57 PM) Bohiruci: there is neng and suo
(9:58 PM) Bohiruci: so how do u define by rencheng jue zhao ?
(9:59 PM) AEN: wat neng wat suo?
(9:59 PM) Bohiruci: the ability to nianfo
(9:59 PM) Bohiruci: and the subject matter
(9:59 PM) Bohiruci: how u see that ?
(10:00 PM) AEN: subject matter, u mean the object of
meditation?
(10:00 PM) Bohiruci: how u define this two in rencheng ?
(10:01 PM) AEN: wat do u mean by subject matter, do u mean the
object of meditation?
(10:01 PM) Bohiruci: content
(10:02 PM) AEN: y don u explain in terms of nian fo first, cos i
dun understand wat exactly u mean
(10:02 PM) Bohiruci: hmm
(10:02 PM) Bohiruci: i cannot
(10:02 PM) Bohiruci: u see
(10:02 PM) Bohiruci: in nianfo
(10:03 PM) Bohiruci: there is a ability to recite ..the sound and
the person reciting
(10:03 PM) Bohiruci: there is the content of the recitation
(10:03 PM) Bohiruci: when both are not in opposites
(10:03 PM) Bohiruci: mean non-duality
(10:03 PM) Bohiruci: u achieve samadhi
(10:03 PM) Bohiruci: but how u use rencheng pov to explain
it
(10:05 PM) AEN: in jue zhao, we don need any particular object,
though we can also use any object for support [be it breathing,
buddha name, etc]... because jue is like light, it shines up
everything that comes into view, like a mirror, the light shines
the whole world, and light appears as everything, everything is
self luminous
(10:05 PM) AEN: so basically everything is the 'subject
matter'
(10:11 PM) AEN: as for 'neng'... jue is ever present, already
shining as everything, but by getting stuck in ignorance views and
thinking, it becomes obscured... but buddha nature is already
'complete'
