dependent origination and middle way

last SG · 2007-11-22T06:31:04+00:00

quote: His Holiness praises the following verses for their essential meaning: Whatever is dependently arisen That is explained to be emptiness. [b]That, be...

An Eternal Now SG

Wrong. You still have not provided me any credible real life examples of that.

Herzog_Zwei SG

Do you ever know what will happen in the future? Do you know what exactly happens in the past? Plenty of examples in history.

An Eternal Now SG

What has that got to do with this topic?

I am asking for an example of independent origination.

What happens in the past has all arisen due to dependent origination, so will everything in the future.

Herzog_Zwei SG

Theory is that that which arise, this may not arise, that which does not arise, this may arise.

Herzog_Zwei SG

How many people are there living on Earth? Based on Chaos Theory, the change in air pressure from a butterfly flapping its wings or a human breathing may precipitate a hurricane on the other side of the world, so far, how many hurricanes have occured?

An Eternal Now SG

Butterfly is only one out of uncountable number of conditions necessary to produce a hurricane.

An Eternal Now SG

And I'm telling you your theory is wrong.

So far until now, you have not given me any credible real life examples.

Herzog_Zwei SG

The Butterfly Effect is one of the most credible examples but you are the skeptic now. Mr. Green

An Eternal Now SG

The butterfly effect is a perfect example of dependent origination but apparently you don't understand how it works.

Herzog_Zwei SG

Wrong, it is the perfect example of indepedent origination as all elements for a event to occur may be present but the event may or may not occur.

An Eternal Now SG

Wrong, you will never know when are all elements for an event present because reality is not a fixed pattern order and yet does not mean no order.

Herzog_Zwei SG

Did I say no order at all?

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