How did the Buddha define 'Sexual Misconduct'?

mahawarrior SG

I think the other four of the Five Precept are relatively straight-forward.

But how did the Buddha (not you) define 'sexual misconduct' exactly? And did his defination, which may have been applicable for the situation/society of that time (i.e. more conservative, different sets of socially accepted morals, etc), applicable in modern society?

gigabyte14 SG

adultery

rape

An Eternal Now SG

Originally posted by mahawarrior:
I think the other four of the Five Precept are relatively straight-forward.

But how did the [b]Buddha (not you) define 'sexual misconduct' exactly? And did his defination, which may have been applicable for the situation/society of that time (i.e. more conservative, different sets of socially accepted morals, etc), applicable in modern society?[/b]

Hi, generally, any form of sexual activities outside your faithful partner is sexual misconduct. This includes casual sex, prositution, adultery, extra marital affairs and things like that. And yes of course that applies in modern society.

Hello Kitty SG

pardon me but i guess… he wans to knw abt pre-marital…?

gigabyte14 SG

dun tink so HK

i tink he's referring to all kinds

An Eternal Now SG

Marriage is a social thing. Strictly speaking its not related to Buddhism. If you and her is faithful partner then its ok, as there are some people who decided to stay as faithful partners and did not get married.

But of course it is completely unwise to engage in sex before marriage especially if you all are young. Then it can lead to problems like having to abort babies, which will create very very negative karma if you chose to do so.

Hello Kitty SG

my natural instinct pretty accurate de. either dat or one other ting. u ask him in priv loh.

choco B SG

What about viewing pornography while in an exclusive relationship?

An Eternal Now SG

As I don't have much knowledge, I'm not sure if the Buddha mentioned pornography.

However, I would say that pornography is part of it.

Karma has three kinds.. mind karma, speech karma, and action karma. If you fantasize sexual misconduct, isn't that creating unwholesome mind karma?

And I just mentioned quite a lot about these karmic imprints in my newer threads these few days... how subtle it can be.

By viewing pornography you are planting seeds deep into your 8th consciousness. These seeds will stay, they will surface again and again, and even be brought forward to your next life. Then it may serve as a real cause for sexual misconduct in future, or future lifetimes.

Buddhism stress a lot on purification of the mind and liberation. If you want liberation, you should abstain from these things.

cycle SG

Yes, this is sexual misconduct; regardless one is in an exclusive relationship or not. Strictly speaking, I remember reading Master Chi Zhou's ( forgot where's that book, will check it out) article that any craving for sexual gratifications is sexual misconduct. Even for married couples, if they make love in inappropriate places eg. kitchen, living room,garden, bathroom etc. instead of in the privacy of their bedroom, it is also sexual misconduct ( becos they are craving sexual excitment or gratifications).

I think many ppl in this new era would choose to dissagree with Master Chi Zhou in this, but think of what AEN mentioned above, such actions and behaviour will be planted in our 8th Consciousness. So, up to u. Smile

798 SG

believe it or not, i once practise in temple at KL, i read this book, it stated dat,
having sex during thunder storm is consider as sexual misconduct too.
others including:

Fei Nan Fei Nu (having sex wif wrong person, meaning gay/lesbian sexual act, animal);
watching porn while having sex;
premartial sex;
n so forth.

An Eternal Now SG

Thunder storm?? Got such thing meh? What is the name of the book and what temple you visited?

mahawarrior SG

ya, i got hear before. if i dun remember wrongly it's because one may attract unwanted beings, or something like that.

also cannot have sex in certain places, such as temples of course. but kitchens and bathrooms (doing it beside the toilet bowl?) seem a bit far-fetched (for defining sexual misconduct) to me...

798 SG

yeah. it listed 10 things which defined sexual misconduct. it also listed what is the correct ways to conduct sex.

think the book is 'Refrain from Sexual Misconduct'. i'm not sure wat is the temple name since i went there in 1992.

An Eternal Now SG

Strange.. never heard that.

Perhaps if someone know more about the reason why 'thunder storm' is included, please explain to us... I would very much like to know... or any sutras which the Buddha spoke about it..

bohiruci SG

Hi all ,sexual misconduct precept is the Buddha wish for his followers to be faithful to their partner .

Sexual misconduct causes tension in the family and quarrels often

one who engage in sexual misconduct not only include pre-marital , with same sexes , with minor ,near holy places and even with the hands or thigh tightly closed

all this are summarise from Lama Je Tsongkhapa Great treatise on the stages of the path to enlightenment ,Lam Rim Chen Mo
from the Lamrim Chenmo Translation committee

Watching pornography is seeding sexual misconduct seeds which will cause one to degrade further in the cycles of samsara .take heed

from a chinese "no to sexual misconduct" several reports in Qing dynasty ,young ppl die even as young as 30 on the bed ,due to heart seizue ,a result of unable to control carnal desire outage

As stated in the Shurangama sutra ,
sexual activity is the cause of our many rebirth in the human and animal realms

We should respect people right to keep pure and do not create such unwholesome karma for resulting in future karmic "debts "

with sincerity
bohiruci

Hello Kitty SG

the pandora’s box has been opened…

bohiruci SG

but it can be closed ... Cool

by purifications

Hello Kitty SG

wah, 1st time i c u so cheeky.

Scania N113CRB luver SG

Erm … Is masturbation a sin ?