Winnie's questions about Buddhism

Owl^ SG

double post

Owl^ SG

edited again due to unstable 'weather!'

edited: for MODERN gnostic practitioners too if they wana to learn the path of wisdom!

May they be well n happy..Be confident on the path of wisdom

May they liberate from darkness ignorance!

Rem... seed of karma is greatest than any psychic forces

coolbluewater SG

Originally posted by bohiruci:
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I dun see the need to say who is enlighten ? so whats the point of learning when everyone just want to learn from enlighten one and non-enlighten one cast aside

So infact ,you and I shouldnt share on Buddhadharma as we are not qualified to do so .then Buddhism will be the same as other worldly religion

to PM someone who isnt a Buddhist about enlighten one isnt a correct action

remember ,WHAT we all do is bounded by karma , whether we like it or not

coolbluewater ,can you please read thru the WHOLE posting and understand whats going on before u reply

thank you .

Wink

Sorry, I'm just sharing my view on certain issue, as this, whether an enlightened should be identified. I certainly not qualified to share about Buddhadharma, and neither did I even try to do it.

My point is, its better go guide someone to the right teacher rather than the one that is known provide wrong views right? Of course, who am I to judge who is right or wrong.

Nevertheless, I'll probably stop here and now to avoid creating more negative karma with my very immature thoughts. Embarassed

*aen: removed quoting error

Xprobe SG

"actually i wan to learn how to be a better person first"

there is no destination of a "better person" until you fully realise your buddhahood, anything short of that, when do you say "ok, thats enuff, i a better person now, lets do something else" - it never happens

bettering yourself is a continuous process, until you attained buddhahood, by then it comes so natural that you dont even show a "bettering" effort

so winnie, you have a misconception that being a better person is a different OR lesser path than aspiring to attain buddhahood, it is the same thing and the only difference is that you are selling yourself short Cool

Xprobe SG

chim is because we make it chim, we should reflect on our inabilities or just pure laziness to simplify it for others, what is the true spirit of mahayana?

Xprobe SG

AEN - but how do you know if he is able to help you elevate suffering? isnt this the fundamental objective? charity everyone can do, you can have a charitable heart and still feel like shit unless you transform your 3 poisons.

An Eternal Now SG

Yes charity without transforming himself is not enough and is merely cultivating form of worldly blessing. One must transform himself, his 3 poisons, and practise the 6 paramitas and the 4 immeasurables. In this way we are cultivating true merits and true compassion.

Next after transforming one's inner mind state, which is to say eradicating all unwholesome habits and sentient thoughts through mindfulness, one must practise compassion. It is not superficial compassion or pity... My taiwanese teacher tells us often how to completely live your life for all sentient beings... as a form of Bodhicitta. My master instructed him to practise the four immeasurables, so he emphasize a lot for his practise. One who completely lives his life for others, out of compassion for other beings, he has no concern for himself. My taiwanese teacher encountered a lot of difficulties in life before... many many difficulties such as almost losing his business and entering bankruptcy, ppl trying to obstruct his dharma path, dying 4 times and undergo near death experiences but later revived (in all cases the doctors didnt think he had a chance) and being saved by Guan Yin once... he is completely unaffected. Even during his 'dying moments' he has little concern about his death... he puts all his attention in giving dharma talk to the students beside him. Imagine if you were to practise this.. the Bodhisattva way... how can any worldly and personal problems concern you? Your ego story, personal sufferings and problems become very insignificant and you are no longer attached to them.. your four immeasurables really become immeasurable like the vast sky. One with true bodhicitta: how can he have the five desires of wealth, sex, food-and-drink, fame, and sleep? His whole life is lived not for the ego but for the wellbeing and happiness of all sentient beings. This is far greater than just giving a few donations to charity every year.. it is an entire transformation.

I am no where near a Bodhisattva or the capacity of a Bodhisattva... but just my 2 cents.

An Eternal Now SG

I'm not sure if he cant understand my original post.. but I did write pls ask if there are anything I can further clarify Wink I'll be more than happy.

cycle SG

Good morning, AEN !

Err, actually I'm not referring to you... Shocked

It is true different venearbles hv different level of knowlege or insights, just like there r school teachers with different qualities of teachings. No questions on that. That's why we shouldn't tell everyone who are the ones we "think" are not "up to mark". Not talking abt you lah, pls don't misunderstand; I've never seen you post anything like that before.
Just personally feels that many Buddhist are doing this all along and it shows their disrespect to the Triple Gem.
In fact, if I'm not wrong, I remember you 're the one mentioning that we shld respect all venerables and monks regardless of the Sects they belong. I was impressed and hope that all Buddhist can see your point.

It's perfectly fine that you recomment Owl the ppl whom you feel could be of help to her. Its always good to share knowledge. You hv my total support on that. Smile

An Eternal Now SG

That's right. Though we can recommend people, it's never a good thing to disparage others. Especially saying about monks in a bad way can create quite unwholesome karma.

Owl^ SG

Rolling Eyes ........................

An Eternal Now SG

I'll post later on how Buddhism can help one to become a better person.. for now.. gtg. Smile

bohiruci SG

Excellent !

As I sms AEN about my stand , I wasnt angry or what over whether PM about whos who is enlighten

and to Xprobe Smile

The Spirit of Mahayana is Universal Equality and Compassion

Only when one works towards that , one is on the Path of the Mahayana

To Coolbluewater Smile

there wasnt a personal attack or what Wink

I just feeling yes ,we must honour enlightened person

but we must understand as Buddhist ,what is the actual proper guideline of a attain buddhist master and who isnt

Buddha have already told us in his Bequeathed teachings

"Make the Precepts as your teacher when I passes on"

Yi Jie Wei shi

What is deviant is those people who boastin supernatural powers and certain attainment which is already deviating from the Buddhist Basic Precepts ,
be it Vinaya Precepts ,Praktimosha , Brahma Net Sutra Bodhisattva Precepts ,Yogi Bodhisattva Precepts ,or Vajrayana Samaya Vows

I will come back to my point

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Diamond Sutra

Anyway , I see the Sleeping Lion have awaken Wink

Xprobe SG

exactly my point, a teacher/ master is valuable only if he or she is able to also help his/ her disciples to elevate suffering themselves, to achieve similar attainment as he or she, only this matters, this is the capacity of a Bodhisattva

what he or she went thru in life is merely his or her karma at work and is irrelevant if this above criteria is not met, who is to say that great masters cannot be born from a life of great wealth and success? must they all have a dramatic past?

Xprobe SG

again, this is what i meant, how does one work towards that? is one working towards that when non-practitioners find the way in which we share the dharma too "chim" to understand and thus
(a) dismiss it due to incomprehension,
(b) slander it because of misunderstanding or
(c) start dwelling on the mystic instead?

Each of these reactions will result in karmas that distant them more from the path. How does this help the cultivation of universal equality and compassion? As such, are we aiding or obstructing Buddha's teaching?

Isis SG

It means that everyone of us already have this " buddha nature", whole and complete. It also means enlightenment is possible for everyone. Even if there person is the meanest guy on earth, he also has a "buddha nature"

We can't see it cos of ignorance and other reasons.

Isis SG

I think as buddhist ( i think also for anyone, despite of religion ), it is better to have the right intention and be mindful of what we are posting here.

2 cents of opinions...

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Herzog_Zwei SG

Right intention can also be wrong intention, so just post. Twisted Evil

An Eternal Now SG

What kind of logic is this? Like that criminals can do what they want? Rolling Eyes

An Eternal Now SG

Originally posted by bohiruci:
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but we must understand as Buddhist ,what is the actual proper guideline of a attain buddhist master and who isnt

Buddha have already told us in his Bequeathed teachings

"Make the Precepts as your teacher when I passes on"

Yi Jie Wei shi

What is deviant is those people who boastin supernatural powers and certain attainment which is already deviating from the Buddhist Basic Precepts ,
be it Vinaya Precepts ,Praktimosha , Brahma Net Sutra Bodhisattva Precepts ,Yogi Bodhisattva Precepts ,or Vajrayana Samaya Vows

So far I am not aware of any deviant people in our forum Smile Also regarding attainments, it is fine to reveal one's attainment depending on conditions. In fact Arhats like Dharma Dan (http://www.interactivebuddha.com/about.shtml) openly announced his attainments of Arhatship and Jhanas... Buddha also announced his attainment of Buddhahood, as well as the top disciples like Shariputra and Mogallana -- the early Arhats all have the tradition of announcing their attainments. So announcing attainment is fine as long as it is not misleading, and truly enlightened people do not boast (I've never seen anyone boasting in this forum of their attainment so that's a good sign). However, if announcing attainment can help others so that others may know who they can learn from, that's not necessarily bad. Just that in modern times, attaining enlightenment is not something people would often discuss, one of the reason is because of taboos.. however that was not the case in early Buddhism.

I will come back to my point

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Diamond Sutra

This is relevant only for people who worships enlightened beings rather than follow their teachings, the dharma they teach. What's more important is to follow their teachings Smile However to receive guidance from enlightened ones is important.

Anyway , I see the Sleeping Lion have awaken Wink

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