Skype on 7 mar 2007:Overcmg odds in life ,Diamond & Shuranga

syncopation_music SG

There will be a skype at 8pm -11pm

all are welcome

topics is on the outline of practice in Diamond Sutra ,introduction to Shurangama

and Overcoming Odds in life

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bohiruci SG

Indeed , tracelessness as what AEN have enlightened me

in the Diamond sutra discussion

I quite glad i have not misinterprete the terminology there

and to all , the next few skype i will still be talking on tracelessness on diamond sutra

and Q and A session on all aspect of Buddhism for all

all are welcome

Buddhism :Compassion Affinity
Buddhism Chan,Mahamud & Dzogc
"special transmission outside the scriptures, Not upon words and letters; By pointing directly to Mind.

bohiruci SG

He enters the market place with empty hands," yet others receive benefit from him. This is what is called to be on the road, yet not to have left the house; to have left the house, yet not to be on the road." Is he an ordinary man? Is he a sage? The evil ones and the heretics cannot discern him. Even the buddhas and the patriarchs cannot lay their hands upon him. Were anyone to try to indicate his mind, [it would be no more there than] the horns of a rabbit or the hairs of a tortoise that have gone beyond the farthest mountain.

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/bodhisattva/five_ranks.html

bohiruci SG

Not Identifible, Not Comprehendible, Not Traceable

Since the Tathagata, the liberated one does NOT identify himself with the five aggregates because of that very reason he is not comprehendible. We cannot comprehend him. If he does not identify himself with any of the aggregates, how can we identify him? He becomes unidentifiable in relation to the five aggregates. Because it is categorically stated, that material form by which one may weaken Tathagata, that material form had been completely eliminated in the case of the Tathagata. That feeling, that perception, those mental formation, that consciousness, on the basis of which one may describe the Tathagata, all those factors as far as the Tathagata is concerned had been completely eliminated, eradicated and destroyed. Therefore the Tathagata is not comprehendible even in this very life.

Dittheva dhamme saccato thetato anupalabbhiya-mana = in this very life the Tathagata is not comprehendible, he is not identifiable, he is not traceable.

Because he is called the traceless one = apada. Apada means the traceless one, as he leaves no trace. The liberated saint is the traceless one because he leaves no trace.