I think ultimate reality is not about the ego, the self, or any
concepts whatsoever, although it is not separate from relative
realities. Ultimate reality cannot be attained. Neither can it be
"known". Recognition is not a "knowing", there is nothing in
particular to know, neither is there someone who knows.
Insight/enlightenment/awakening is not about attaining or knowing
anything, but waking up from a big dream. It has always been said
that Ultimate Reality is ungraspable and imageless. To hold on to a
"Self" as ultimate reality is already wrong. Ultimate reality is
just the arising and ceasing, everything spontaneously self-arises
and self-liberates. All along our existence has been non-dual, so
oneness cannot be prescribed (or attained), it can only be
described. Meaning, there never was a seperation of subject and
object (therefore achieving 'union' or 'oneness' does not make
sense), all along it is our ignorance fooling ourselves. There is
nothing to attain.. and you can't find yourself outside Mind (as in
True Mind) means it doesn't help when you are searching for the
bull you are riding on in the first place. It does not literally
means finding something which you can identify with "IT" and call
it "Self".
http://www.nathangill.com/pages/readingroom/going-beyond.html
Going beyond.
So there's an awareness of this
room right now, but what about the unmanifest level?
What unmanifest level? Isn't what's appearing enough?
The appearance is merely a
pointer to what is beyond Consciousness.
Why do you want to go beyond?
Because that's where all the
action is, for creating this manifestation.
This manifestation isn't created - it spontaneously appears.
But ultimately there's nothing
more important than what is beyond Consciousness.
When there's exclusive identification with the content of
awareness, with the story of 'me' as an imagined entity, there's a
tendency for the awareness aspect of Consciousness to be
objectified as 'the beyond', a state or realm which once attained
will offer oneness, lasting peace.
But in actuality there is no beyond, nothing to be attained
'ultimately'. There's simply this as it is: simple presence. This
is already that 'realm'. Consciousness (awareness and the presently
appearing content of awareness) is already one or whole, and when
the story of 'me' - of identification - is seen as just a play, a
movie, then all pursuit of oneness, all pursuit of the beyond or
whatever, quite naturally becomes obsolete.
http://www.nathangill.com/pages/readingroom/cosmic-entertainment.html
The cosmic entertainment.
Are you saying that thought
doesn't make a difference, that nothing makes a difference in the
sense of cause and effect? Everything just arises?
Everything just arises, including the idea of cause and
effect.
But doesn't that idea itself make
a difference? Doesn't the idea create an effect at a local
level?
Only apparently so, as part of the play or movie of life. In
actuality there's no cause and effect. Everything - all of this
imagery - arises entirely spontaneously, immediately. Within the
movie of life, there is the impression of cause and effect, but in
actuality there is no separation, so nothing that can act upon
anything else.
So it all just happens to arise
and it just looks as though there's relationship?
Yes, the imagery that arises merely suggests separation.
And so somebody who identifies
with an 'I' or with a body -
Well, it's not that there's 'someone' who identifies - rather it's
more accurately described by saying 'Where identification arises
'.
OK, so where identification
arises, that is something that nothing can be done
about?
Precisely so. If anything changes it does so entirely spontaneously
- because there's no one here who can effect any change. Cause and
effect, action and reaction, are appearance only, the imagery of
the movie of life, the cosmic entertainment.
