What are your doubts on Buddhism

last SG · 2006-10-13T00:07:47+00:00

Sitting meditation is just an aspect of Buddhism... and meditation isn't just sitting. In fact Buddhism isn't all about sitting meditation and chanting... th...

An Eternal Now SG

Very true... only the Truth is everlasting Cool

laurence82 SG

Actually, I had never seen it before

But i am now seeing some Buddhists who are very mean, sarcastic and engage in deceits towards others, and felt themselves fully justified

I am quite saddened actually

Btw, these are not my doubts on Buddhism, in case people again, want to take chance to take potshots.

Cool

An Eternal Now SG

Yes that's sad. I wouldn't even be surprised if a person who claims to be Buddhist engage in crimes, etc.

Bcos everyone's attitude to Buddhism (even if they claim to be devote), their practise, understanding, realisation, are all different...

Oh and to add on.. if people persist in such non-buddhist behaviors.. pls dont act as if you are devoted in Buddhism, you are creating bad karma for yourself and giving ppl a very bad impression.

Xprobe SG

An Eternal Now SG

Oh and you have to take into account that some people are just plain immature Laughing

laurence82 SG

This is the sad part.

I think Buddhism is very clear when it comes to behaviours

Xprobe SG

need to differentiate between the dharma itself and the people who claim to practise or associate with it

one more thing - you cannot "automatically" become a buddhist because your family pray to guan yin all these years, you have to be ceremonially initiated into taking refuge in the three gems - buddha-ya, dharma-ya, sangha-ya, so just clarify with people who claim to be "buddhists"

also you have to take into account that all of us are in the process of practising, thus still havent end our 3 Poisons yet, so depending on how progressive one is, there will be vary degrees of difference as to how different practitioners' "react" in life

laurence82 SG

Yesterday on Chn55 5.30 pm got show Journey to the West, last episode

I know its a legend, but one thing caught my attention

Before they reach Lei Yin Si and were in their last and therefore 99th tribulation, Sun Wukong suddenly found himself committed some wrongdoings. In order not to implicate Xuanzang, he severed their teacher-disciple relationship and goes back to the demon realm.

Xuanzang, knows he is one step away from Buddhahood, yet he refuse to go there until he bring back Wukong from being condemned eternally.

Wink

Isis SG

Come to think, no one is perfect.

Even office politics, power struggle and back-stabbing occurs in religious organisation.

"Full justified" - are people who lack wisdom and having ignorance; they are also creating suffering for others and themselves.

It is important to have some compassionate and wisdom when dealing with them. It is also important not to be affected by them.

laurence82 SG

Actually hor, how not be 'affected' by them? If not affected, then you wouldnt realise there is a need to bring them to right path and show them compassion and wisdowm liao

Xprobe SG

there is a difference between acknowledging their ways and being attached & directed by them

once you start to have a "urge" to do something about it, your cycle of suffering begins

laurence82 SG

depend i think

what sort of 'do something about it'? will helping them going back to right path be negative?

Xprobe SG

just got to observe if circumstances are ripe to show them the light, when you force it against the karma of that moment, you only create problems for both yourself and them, which is unwise
your intentions may be noble, but your execution is ineffective, doesnt get the job done right?

Isis SG

actually what i mean by not 'affected', is having the wrong attachment.

U can try practise: Don't harbour grudges towards them. Having compassionate thought helps. Forgive them.

laurence82 SG

hmmm...

laurence82 SG

actually, i just usually cast them as helpless and just avoid, bearing grudges....no time

Laughing

Isis SG

Food for thought:

He abused me, he laughed at me, he struck me. Thus one thinks and so long as one retains such thoughts, one's anger continues. Anger will never disappear so long as there are thoughts of resentment in the mind. Anger will disappear just as soon as thoughts of resentment are forgotten.

Isis SG

ok.. no comment =] Neutrality is better than having grudges.

but why bother to even cast them as helpless?

laurence82 SG

coz its a good reason to avoid

hmm i shall say, good excuse rather..like i said, bo si gan

Xprobe SG

this "brainwashing" method doesnt always work because you are trying to force and replace what you already experienced with a different perspective, it does not address the root

why not try to observe that your "feelings" are impermanent, they come and they will go, their true nature is emptiness, and think about all those times that you acted on these impermanent feelings, how you unconsciously let your heart project itself onto your external environment, how your own heart toyed with your thoughts and actions

how silly and unwise that you were unable to see through the fascade

and if you practise this enough, you will start to relish every time you meet these "assholes" because they provide you another good opportunity to tame your own heart, and only when your own heart is tamed and still, these "assholes" will cease to exist

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