four face buddha not buddha right?

laoda99 SG

which indian god is it?

An Eternal Now SG

The Maha Brahma – the one who claimed to be Creator

laoda99 SG

the chinese newspaper wrote Po Luo Men Jiao....and provide the name......what is Po Luo Men Jiao? Brahminism?

An Eternal Now SG

Yes, its Brahmanism

The Brahma is also worshipped in Hinduism nowadays. In Buddha's times there was no such thing as Hinduism, Hinduism sprung up a thousand years later after muslims invaded India and called the religion 'Hinduism'.

babymac13 SG

Are you referring to four face buddha in Bangkok?

If yes, is it true, if you ask for something and when your wishes comes true, you must return to thanks the buddha?

Example like Nicholas Tse who was charged previously. He and his mum went to pray to the four face buddha in Bangkok and eventually I think he got away with a light sentence and they returned to thanks the buddha.

laoda99 SG

wat's the religion b4 buddhism in india? Jainism?

An Eternal Now SG

In Buddha's period there are more than 60+ different spiritual traditions. Brahmanism is probably most followed. Jainism arose the same time as Buddhism although the two leaders never met.

laoda99 SG

i also dunno.....anyone pray to it and get what u want?

babymac13 SG

That's what I heard.

If you don't return for offerings, possible that your wish will turn against you.

Another thing I heard four face buddha is quite powerful.

An Eternal Now SG

Four Face Brahma is not a Buddha, but is a very powerful worldly being (a Buddha has transcended samsara and is no longer a sentient being). In fact the most powerful in our universe. Nevertheless he is still a worldly being and has not transcended Samsara. He is a dharma protector and also the one who requested that the Buddha teach the dharma to the world.

laoda99 SG

so he is the one buddha questioned?

how powerful is the four face buddha? any scripture says?

if he is a worldly being, can he age and die?

An Eternal Now SG

Yes he is the one Buddha questioned.

Brahma (lets not call it four face buddha now - confusing) is very powerful and can perform a lot of miracles. But he is still subject to ageing and death, although the Brahma himself wasn't aware until the Buddha told him. A Brahma's lifespan is in terms of billions of years. Also the Maha Brahma is not aware that there are in fact higher and even more subtle Brahma planes above his.

Other than Maha Brahma there are many interesting details on Buddhism and gods/brahmas: Teacher of the Devas

Contents

* I. Introduction
* II. The Buddha Teaches Deities
* III. Devas and Brahmas Honor the Buddha
* IV. The Role of Devas in the Buddha's Career
* V. Liberation for Humans, Devas, and Brahmas
* Notes
* Abbreviations
* Bibliography

babymac13 SG

Thanks for that reply.

Any history of Brahma like when he exist?

An Eternal Now SG

Brahma is worshipped outside Buddhism, but the Brahma himself has taken refuge in the triple gems, meaning he became a follower of the Buddha.

laoda99 SG

hmmm....is it worship or honor??? Anyway, Buddha greater than the goddesses?

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A goddess honors the Buddha
Once a devata, a goddess named Kokanada, visited the Blessed One at Vesali and recited verses in his praise:

"I worship the Buddha, the best of beings,
Dwelling in the woods at Vesali
Kokanada I am
Kokanada the daughter of Pajjunna.
Earlier I had only heard that the Dhamma
Has been realized by the One with Vision;
But now I know it as a witness
While the Sage, the Sublime One teaches.

Those ignorant folk who go about
Criticizing the noble Dhamma
Go to the terrible Roruva hell
And experience suffering for a long time.

But those who in the noble Dhamma
Are endowed with acceptance and inner peace,
When they discard the human body,
Will fill up the heavenly hosts of devas." (KS I,40-41; SN 11:39)

An Eternal Now SG

Here is the Hindu understanding of the Maha Brahma, Creator God: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahma_(god)

But Buddhism does not share the belief that Maha Brahma is Creator God, and if you would like to know more about that I can tell you.

babymac13 SG

Thanks for the links.

That explains my queries.

Smile Smile

An Eternal Now SG

Pls see my updated post.

So to say, different religions have different understandings of the Maha Brahma.

laoda99 SG

means a lot of religions worship maha brahma?

An Eternal Now SG

Only Hinduism, currently.

Maha Brahma does has a place in Buddhism, but he is merely seen as a dharma protector. We do not worship Maha Brahma.