What is the Buddha's discourse on cosmology

last SG · 2005-11-02T22:42:00+00:00

this "war thing" sounds like the new world order and annunakis...

bohiruci SG

Give me some time , i think i know where is the url for practice of Maitreya Bodhisattva

Seek Rebirth to the inner Palace of the Tushita Heaven......

longchen SG

I see... so true.

Thanks, Thusness.

sinweiy SG

can't, is all i heard. hence i asked. Smile
maybe can use search engine, i tried for a bit...but not much found.

ps: to go to Maitreya Bodhisattva's Inner court of Tusita heaven, one need to practice a technic called Wei Xin Shi Ting 'Î¨ÐÄÊ¶¶¨¡¯ (Mind-Only, Consciousness samathi?). It's very difficult. A grand master who did it is Master Empty Cloud Hsu Yun. Note that, Maitreya Bodhisattva also visit Amitabha Buddha's PL to study. if go to Tusita heaven, u'll be His student. but if one can go to Amitabha's Pl, which is easier, one's classmate with Maitreya Bodhisattva! Wink

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bohiruci SG

it is one of the practice only ... there are other ways of practice
the usual -repentance
chanting of Maitreya descent sutra Part 1 -3
and chant the vow to reborn in Tusita Heaven Inner Palace
Ven Yan Pei also vowed to go Maitreya PL

becos the most important thing is that at the longhua period (the bodhi tree in the future aeon wont be called bodhi ,or linden in germany )
the 3 assembly of Maitreya will help more than 60,000 ppl enlightened
there , Maha Kasyapa who is now still meditating in Chicken Foot mountain in Yunnan , China ,will awakes and passed the alms and bowl of Sakyamuni Buddha to Maitreya , symbolise the Coming of the Next Teachers of God and Human ,Buddha Maitreya

The following information was remembered in my mind ,from a chinese reference book on pureland ideology

available in reference section woodland regional library

this books tells of all the pureland teaching and practice from the medicine buddha practice , maitreya buddha

esoteric true word and the Western paradise of Amitabha

An Eternal Now SG

Thanks for sharing the wonderful ways of attaining rebirth in tushi-ta heaven's Maitreya Inner Courtyard... I have heard that the famous masters like Ven Tai Xu and Ven Xu Yun (either or both?) have attained rebirth in the Maitreya Inner Courtyard.

Personally, I do not specifically practise the way to be reborned in the Inner Courtyard, you can say, a different path although still related to Maitreya Bodhisattva...

There is quite a good article (from the Theravada tradition): How to Meet Buddha Metteyya

An Eternal Now SG

Yup, actually, I think it is not 60,000 (did you accidentally refered to the unorthodox I-Kuan-Dao's version of maitreya sutra?), but more than 9 billion people getting enlightened in each assembly.

http://www.jenchen.org.sg/vol8no3a.htm
Throughout Maitreya Buddha's entire life of delivering discourses on the Dharma, he guides and enlightens infinite numbers of sentient beings. Among the various Dharma discourses, there are 3 great assemblies: The first assembly teaches and guides 9.6 billion people, the second assembly, 9.4 billion people, and the third assembly, 9.2 billion people. These assemblies are the highly renowned 'Dragon-Flower Triple Assemblies' of the future.

Apart from these, there are many many occasions where billions of people attain enlightenment! (The Sutra of Maitreya's Attaining Buddhahood)

Also, according to the Lotus Sutra, Shakyamuni Buddha held Three Assemblies in Two Places.
1. First Assembly in Vulture Peak (Mount Grdhrakuta) - from Chapter 1 to first half of Chapter 11.
2. Second Assembly in the sky - from the second half of Chapter 11 to Chapter 21.
3. Third Assembly in Vulture Peak (Mount Grdhrakuta) again - from Chapter 21 to Chapter 28.

Wonderful that they are going to teach dharma in the sky!

An Eternal Now SG

Hi Thusness,

Kalachakra Tantra was directly passed down from Shakyamuni Buddha to the kings of Shamballa who visited Shakyamuni Buddha from their flying vehicles according to their scriptures. The 2nd Shamballa king (the current Dalai Lama is known to be one of his incarnation I heard) wrote a large commentary on Kalachakra Tantra. It is introduced into Tibet in 1027 by those Shamballa people, yes, that is true... but it originated from Shakyamuni Buddha. Certain lamas (like the Dalai Lama? Panchen Lama?) is known to have contacts with people from Shamballa Shocked

All the 4 Tibetan traditions teach the Kalachakra, the Dalai Lama is one of the well known Kalachakra propogator.

An Eternal Now SG

Aghartha and Shamballa is used interchangeably in the past, nowadays they use the word Shamballa more commonly.

My Master did not mention the word 'Shamballa' (which is probably more Tibetan side I think?), but from what I have read I believe it is either the same, or highly linked. Shamballa is probably Aghartha's capital.

BTW, contacts with Aghartha/Shamballa did not start from Buddhism, it dates all the way back to the Vedas (many thousand years before Buddhism) - even the language of Sanskrit was thought to have originated from Shamballa.

An Eternal Now SG

actually xrisler, you said...

becos the most important thing is that at the longhua period (the bodhi tree in the future aeon wont be called bodhi ,or linden in germany )
the 3 assembly of Maitreya will help more than 60,000 ppl enlightened
there ,

This is one of the confusing part of the sutras.

Sutra states each Buddha sits under different kind of trees, but yet how come it is Bodhi tree? It is very strange.... but actually people are all mistaken.

All Buddhas of different era sit under different kind of trees, but after enlightenment, that kind of tree will be called the Bodhi Tree! Shocked Because someone attained Great Enlightenment under it... thats why its Bodhi.

longchen SG

I see, thanks...

U are so knowlegdeable Smile

An Eternal Now SG

No la, I was quite interested in it, so I did some research on it quite a long time ago...

bohiruci SG

hmmm , dun ask me , ask the author , if u have doubt ,the author also in doubts ??

there is a source they follow .... so dun doubt me ..provide me the source and i convinced ,the actual data where u can find this

bohiruci SG

Originally posted by An Eternal Now:

Yup, actually, I think it is not 60,000 (did you accidentally refered to the unorthodox I-Kuan-Dao's version of maitreya sutra?), but more than 9 billion people getting enlightened in each assembly.

http://www.jenchen.org.sg/vol8no3a.htm
Throughout Maitreya Buddha's entire life of delivering discourses on the Dharma, he guides and enlightens infinite numbers of sentient beings. Among the various Dharma discourses, there are 3 great assemblies: [b]The first assembly teaches and guides 9.6 billion people, the second assembly, 9.4 billion people, and the third assembly, 9.2 billion people. These assemblies are the highly renowned 'Dragon-Flower Triple Assemblies' of the future.

Apart from these, there are many many occasions where billions of people attain enlightenment! (The Sutra of Maitreya's Attaining Buddhahood)

Also, according to the Lotus Sutra, Shakyamuni Buddha held Three Assemblies in Two Places.
1. First Assembly in Vulture Peak (Mount Grdhrakuta) - from Chapter 1 to first half of Chapter 11.
2. Second Assembly in the sky - from the second half of Chapter 11 to Chapter 21.
3. Third Assembly in Vulture Peak (Mount Grdhrakuta) again - from Chapter 21 to Chapter 28.

Wonderful that they are going to teach dharma in the sky!
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well, i may have made the wrong figures , but i definitely not reading a I-kuan dao book , please do not put words into my mouth

like i said ,it is a book on pureland practice ,and made no reference to

Wu sheng lao mu !!!!!

here u are ,trying to outsmart ppl with all -rounded knowledge and yet not humbly requesting verification

thats kind of rude to ppl ...... Neutral

An Eternal Now SG

Originally posted by bohiruci:

[b]well, i may have made the wrong figures , but i definitely not reading a I-kuan dao book , please do not put words into my mouth

like i said ,it is a book on pureland practice ,and made no reference to

Wu sheng lao mu !!!!!

here u are ,trying to outsmart ppl with all -rounded knowledge and yet not humbly requesting verification

thats kind of rude to ppl ...... Neutral

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I am not making a sweeping statement (in fact I am only asking whether you have come across it, not saying that you really did), the reason why I mentioned 60,000 related to I-Kuan-Dao is because I have read the I-Kuan-Dao's version (I know they have their own version but cant remember the exact number well): http://www.with.org/ten-en.htm

Sixth Sermon

Bells are used to sound hours. Here to ring the golden bell means to sound warning to humans.

Thirty six hundred saints and forty eight thousand sages is the number of peerages to be conferred at the Long Hua Assembly.

But I believe you also agree with me that i-kuan-dao fake version on maitreya is really crappy... Mr. Green

As for your book on pure land practise, it may have said 60000 also... but I have not read before, therefore I don't know. I do remember however, that Maitreya will teach for 60,000 years before he passes away into great nirvana.

Maybe there are slightly different interpretations, but I believe this is not very important.

But anyway, all Buddhas are known to have a Bodhi Tree... the Bodhi tree which Maitreya Buddha sits under is called the 'naga tree'. Or could it be possible that you have forgotten/mixed up the terms? Maybe they said something like our current bodhi tree is different from their bodhi tree. Just a guess, I may be wrong. But I think not worthy to argue on such little interpretational differences.

[C] GLOSSARY OF BUDDHIST TERMS - 3

naga tree The Bodhi-tree under which Maitreya will become a Buddha.

marcteng SG

Abt the Kalachakra Tantra.

Do you have the sutra that says it is preached by Shakyamuni Buddha?

I just want to verify that it is indeed preached by the Buddha on Kalachakra Tantra.

Thusness SG

Hi Eternal Now,

According to tradition, yes. But I am always resistance to the idea of 'Holy War' and therefore is a little suspicous that is was from the hand of Buddha. Smile Neverthless there must be some very compelling truth and reasons for the lines of Dalai Lamas to show that sort of interests in KalaChraka practices.

An Eternal Now SG

The teaching of Kalachakra was never a message for holy war, but a message for peace. I have printed one Kalachakra Mantra image and pasted it on my room's wall, below I wrote it "Kalachakra for World Peace".

The Kalachakra Initiation is the largest and most important Buddhist ritual conferred by His Holiness, the Dalai Lama. It is traditionally given to groups of people assembled from around the world and therefore associated with the promotion of world peace. The Kalachakra Initiation is considered a special blessing for all who participate and for the place in which it is given.

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The Kalachakra serves as a universal prayer for peace and harmony in the world. For each individual who participates, it is also a renewal of commitment to one's inner spiritual path.

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Well basically, Kalachakra talks about a tyrannical force with hitler-like abitions intends to conquer to world and had almost conquered the entire world. Its only at that time then the shamballa ppl have no choice but to fight them bcos they found the location of shamballa and is attempting to conquer Shamballa.

It is not a war of believers and non-believers, but rather it is an inevitable one, more like the Allied forces fighting off Hitler.

And what is the essence of Kalachakra? Once I asked, What is the essential teaching of the Kalacakra Tantra; what does it really mean? His holiness replied, The essential message of the Kalacakra cycle is that time as such does not exist. (refering to His Holiness Sakya Trizin Rinpoche)

An Eternal Now SG

Yes, it is written in the Kalachakra Tantra commentary itself if I am not wrong. The Kalachakra Tantra is passed down by Shakyamuni Buddha himself. In fact all tantras (like sutras) were expounded by Buddha himself. Tantras are only practised in the Vajrayana tradition.

The Kalachakra also specifically made reference to Shambhala beings coming by "flying horses" and "boats that fly in the air" Smile

marcteng SG

Can you show me the text or suttas that was preached by the Buddha?

Never heard b4 leh, pardon my ignorance on this.
Sorry, I have some doubts on this.

maybe you explain the whole thing in this context.

An Eternal Now SG

Kalachakra is a well known teaching in Vajrayana (being taught in all 4 Tibetan traditions) and is taught by many famous teachers like Dalai Lama himself, but if you are not familiar with Tibetan Buddhism, you would probably not know about it.

More info on Kalachakra:

http://kalachakranet.org/kalachakra_tantra_introduction.html (Introduction to Kalachakra)
http://kalachakranet.org/kalachakra_tantra_history.html (History of Kalachakra Tantra)

enjoy reading Smile

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