Club 30: World of Warcraft War Room 1

last SG · 2008-09-23T09:48:05+00:00

I go check recipe and see if i can make it... lolBTW i saw the new warlock talents like all shitty for dest build....i tink i will go demon/destro

hondapons SG

ok tare teach me. FOR THE HORDE~! (dun know means what)

Midlusionz SG

For the horde is err a cheer most of us here are horde races lol. Orc ftw xD

tare SG

ok tare teach me. FOR THE HORDE~! (dun know means what)

hahaa like dat also can :P

Midlusionz SG

For the wh0re!!

tare SG

For the wh0re!!

i pressume u r speaking for urself? wahahahaaa

Hanagata SG

my pally the most t4 to t5 nia roh... for healing....

for ret.. i buy those blue gears from rep fraction... also can own pple liaos...

gear 30%
skill 60%
guide 10%

hondapons SG

hahaa like dat also can :P

lol. can right? horde is good people or bad people?

Midlusionz SG

i pressume u r speaking for urself? wahahahaaa

Midlusionz SG

my pally the most t4 to t5 nia roh... for healing....

for ret.. i buy those blue gears from rep fraction... also can own pple liaos...

gear 30%
skill 60%
guide 10%

So true.. I am not a good hunter but that tanker dunno shit .. If u dunno how to tank dun choose a tanker ..He always wanna be a imprt person and be power hungry but in the end he got fuck then not happi ..

milith SG

By any chances u all know bout this wowtunnel services?

hihi mid,

i've used wowtunnel before it does reduce the lat - i got mine from 500ms to ~300 or even 100+ sometimes. however the tunnels seem unstable on load. edon and i kept d/c during one sun MH session and at that time we both were on wowtunnels - turned that off and d/c stops so...

anyway im using a registry setting to disable Nagle's algorithm which *seems* to reduce my lat from 500ms+ to a steady 300+ now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle_algorithm

tare SG

lol. can right? horde is good people or bad people?

i not sure abt the storyline... and u mean good by society standard? horde is good, not by society standard but by their honor...

for more info, pls go to worldofwarcraft.com hahahaha

Midlusionz SG

hihi mid,

anyway im using a registry setting to disable Nagle's algorithm which *seems* to reduce my lat from 500ms+ to a steady 300+ now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle_algorithm

hehe, your reply so official .. Tyty .. So wowtunnel no good? My only fear is that i understand thru VPN the owner can actually get your pass and ID .. Not that i have like 8/8 T6 or wat but it's my hardwork >< so i dunwan to risk it .. Last night in Mh, when AoE start my ping shoot up to 800+ .. So piss off .. And and and .. how do u do it?

Midlusionz SG

I just need to input DWORD TcpAckFrequency under the right path and set value to 1?

milith SG

oops my bad lol - job hazard there haha.

well actually blizz supposedly disabled nagle's in a patch however the registry change reduces lat *still* more..

heres more accolades of disable nagle's:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3881819584&sid=1&pageNo=1

and how to disable it, but NOTE - disclaimer it might affect your other apps depends on what you have on your pc:

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=737B654E4E2F2C15B488F0C85B1F503D.app09_03?topicId=2252327125&sid=1

as for wowtunnels - they use ssh which to my knowledge all information passed is encrypted if they were to really breakdown your data they will need quite some huge hardware to go through their many users to get a/c passwords - too much effort imho.

Midlusionz SG

Haa ..

The tweak below allows for tweaking or disabling Nagle's alogrithm. Disabling "nagling" allows for very small packets to be transferred immediately without delay. Note that disabling Nagle's algorithm is only recommended for some games, and it may have negative impact on file transfers/throughput. The dafault state (Nagling enabled) improves performance by allowing several small packets to be combined together into a single, larger packet for more efficient transmission. While this improves overall performance and reduces TCP/IP overhead, it may briefly delay transmission of smaller packets. Keep in mind that disabling Nagle's algorithm may have some negative effect on file transfers, and can only help reduce delay in some games. To implement this tweak, in the registry editor (Start>Run>regedit) find:

This setting configures the maximum number of outstanding ACKs in Windows XP/2003/Vista/2008:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{NIC-id}
There will be multiple NIC interfaces listed there, for example: {1660430C-B14A-4AC2-8F83-B653E83E8297}. Find the correct one with your IP address listed. Under this {NIC-id} key, create a new DWORD value:
TcpAckFrequency=1 (DWORD value, 1=disable, 2=default, 2-n=send ACKs if outstanding ACKs before timed interval. Setting not present by default).

For gaming performance, recommended is 1 (disable). For pure throughput and data streaming, you can experiment with values over 2. If you try larger values, just make sure TcpAckFrequency*MTU is less than RWIN, since the sender may stop sending data if RWIN fills witout acknowledgement.

Also, find the following key (if present):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Parameters
Add a new DWORD value:
TCPNoDelay=1 (DWORD value, 0 to enable Nagle's algorithm, 1 to disable, not present by default)

To configure the ACK interval timeout (only has effect if nagling is enabled), find the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{NIC-id}
TcpDelAckTicks=0 (DWORD value, default=2, 0=disable nagling, 1-6=100-600 ms). Note you can also set this to 1 to reduce the nagle effect from the default of 200ms without disabling it.

This is wat i found out .. Do i just input one DWORD value? Or do i need to input the rest as stated above?

tare SG

one impt qns, would this be consider as 3rd party software? blizz like to suka suka suspend account de leh >.< *innocent victim here*

Midlusionz SG

Yes, Wowtunnel is a third party software .. And its only sooner or later WoW will ban those who are using.

milith SG

aye mid, those settings in red are the ones i use, exactly :)

as you can see if anything adverse happens just have to remove/change back those settings, its pretty straightforward and you *will* see lat drop. haha try it and compare in wow to see.

wowtunnels i've used previously for ~1 month and blizz didnt ban my account, its more of a network change rather than playing around with the client etc. check out the faqs on:

http://www.wowtunnels.com/faqs

but! becos the tunnels are sometimes loaded they will d/c your client so.. in lieu of that i went the nagle's disable way

Midlusionz SG

Just the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{NIC-id}

will do right?

milith SG

the xx\interfaceid} is the registry store for all the network interfaces you have. At the right panel you have to go through all the interface to find which one you use - the interface you use should register your LAN IP address. Then for that interface, you have to add in this new key TcpAckFrequency=1

After this is done you still have to do the other:

Also, find the following key (if present):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Parameters
Add a new DWORD value:
TCPNoDelay=1

i did not do the last entry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{NIC-id}
TcpDelAckTicks=0

hope this helps :) cheers and seeya online soon

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