ShrodingersCat SG FWAH! hehehe just missing a morning and wow.. so many extra pages... Oh well... i think the most important thing at the end of all this debate is to quote this famous quote: ...grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. And those if you cannot change, then don't gripe over it anymore la! Find the silver lining, just do it and enjoy the day! You can't change the way people think... but you CAN change the way you think.
Nelstar SG If you can't change the old, change the young. They will in turn re-educate the new young ones.
Rhonda SG Hmm... I think there's a HUGE difference between being 'liberal' and being 'immoral', and the two are not interchangeable!
iveco SG I agree with you in all entirety. If Nellie's logic were followed to the last letter, the contributors at Open Minded would certainly be paedos. However, I'm going way off topic and shall stop here.
ShrodingersCat SG but that's the thing you see.. people think differently. you got to accept that. Even in US where they use the gift registry people think it is very materialistic too... some couples ask for very expensive gifts, others complain about how people only buy the cheapest possible..how some people say when people have gift registry it means the couple EXPECT you to buy something for them... it's the same thing... same problems with a different face. etc etc... And in many other countries too, the cost of a wedding can run up to many thousands of dollars... ultimately the people who will see gift giving as an expect thing, a crass things, or spoil the spirit that a gift should be given (whether as a giver OR a receiver), they will simply.. do it. A wedding dinner in itself is a truly meaningful thing. An angpow was originally a meaningful gift. Do you abolish the entire custom because of people who corrupt it? How about birthdays? Funerals (got give peh kim)?
Nelstar SG Liberal is a big circle which can actually accommodate immoral ways. Liberal = Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=liberal Keyword is orthodox. Adhering to the accepted or traditional and established faith, especially in religion. (aka morals) And if iveco cannot accept immoral ways, then how come he can stand himself having fetish of an underaged girl?
iveco SG Technically, someone who crushes over a person less than 15 years his junior can't be called paedo cos he isn't old enuff to be his target's parent.
shinta SG Paedophile Main Entry: pe·do·phile Pronunciation: 'pEd-&-"fIl, 'ped- Variant: or chiefly British pae·do·phile /'pEd-/ Function: noun : one affected with pedophilia called also pedophiliac Source: Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc. paedophile n : an adult who is sexually attracted to children [syn: pedophile] Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University
Nelstar SG Like I mentioned before, the art of giving is to give without expectation, and to give willingly. I hate to oblige others due to some customary practised over the years with its value dragged by those barbaric idiots who comments about the amount given. The wedding dinner is but an event. It's like choosing between char kway teow and abalone soup. You can alway re-invent the event. The angpow is a meaningful gift, but the best gift during a wedding is not the number of gifts collected, but the number of sincere wishes amongst the guests. I rather have more sincere wishes, than to have more gifts. The material gift is nothing but a farce to showoff one's capability nowadays such that I rather force my guest to do without. 'Ren lai jiu ke yi, hong bao fang zai jia li'. Nothing is better than having a good crowd than one that goes on about how much the table's worth.
Kuali Baba SG (What the...this thread has trebled in size since I last looked! LOL at the deviations too! But I'll return to the topic for a moment) Pages ago, Malay weddings were mentioned, and that's reminded me of the disappearance of tok panjang - home-cooked Peranakan feasts which consumed required plenty of labour. I'd rather have them because our families would know what sort of food we're sensitive to. Speaking of which...(to kikq)...when the time comes, you can ask your relatives about what they think of having to eat Oriental/South-East Asian food...and I'll ask mine about having your cuisine at a traditional banquet. As soon as we get the answers we want, problem solved.
