Uber, GrabCar drivers to have PDVL, background checks

Ct2220 SG

Why lkc dont post online anymore?

Hearsay Kena $x00K .........................

Nowadays, every night before 12 Midnight keep car liao.

mAdCaB SG

Taxi drivers helped these apps build their client base years back (2014 to Feb 2016) due to the high incentives given and now the same shit is biting them back.

In life nothing is free. 没有白吃的午餐。现在是还债的时候。

I didnt support these apps when the incentives is high because I know how these marketing works slowly and surely.

But these damn bloody prostitutes TDs supported them. So please dont complain that business is bad now. You asked for it.

Best if TDs can start to eat shit now due to private cars lower fares and cheaper rental

Also, waiting for the day driverless car companies come into SG to kill off this trade.

f1taxidriver SG

Its true many cabbies won 4d 1st prize. Some even used their winnings to pay for a new mercedes car and become private limo drivers. But knowing lkc pattern, pigs will fly before he quit as a normal cabby.

Neutral-Thinker SG

Article says "Both permanent residents and work permit holders can also apply"

You forgot to include ", provided that they are employees of a chauffeur company."

So it means cannot be working as a salesman/construction company lorry driver/IT professional and driving as Uber or GrabCar driver.

But this one got loophole as one can easilly register as a chauffeur company, have little business and most of the employees drive as Uber or Grabcar drivers and before we know, the market would be flooded with these new foreign workers who would make us unable to get longer distance trips via call-bookings.

f1taxidriver SG

I advise u not to worry about foreigners coming here to snatch cabby ricebowl. Not many foreigners would be so crazy as to travel so far just to end up a cabby here.

A few days ago, I met a bangladeshi who spent 28yrs here. He is no longer your FT in the construction industry. He already got his blue ic, and runs his own small construction business.

And mind you, this is not the 1st success story i met. Dont look down on our bangala workers. They came here to sweat and endure years of hardship. And some of the hardier and smarter ones eventually became more wealthy than many many miserable cabbies.

Neutral-Thinker SG

Mr Ng said the course will no longer focus as much on memorising the street directory for route planning - drivers will instead be taught to use GPS and online navigational tools.

Since when was the course focused on memorising the street directory. The training was for us to check the street directory fast (average of below 15 seconds) if we do not know how to go to places like certain district's Police Post, polyclinic, any one of the 3000+ condos, any hotel and embassy. Also it was about identification of landmark buildings and knowing of major roads.

If they become rely on GPS type of TDs, then it is bad since heavy GPS TD users alway say "I cannot identify routes one; I totally rely on GPS".

sg11 SG

Good news.
Why complain?
You helped them 2 years ago to build up client Base.
Now they screw you….really TD are the no. 1 prostitute in Singapore.
Today in AMK attending grab pay training…knn still use bluetooth and credit vocher to entice the TDs . And the pros still bite. And they still mentioned during the training..thanks to all TDS for their support. I laughing inside my heart.

I thought Grabtaxi are helping taxi drivers to get more income? Why angry taxi driver support them?

It is the private cars Grabcar and Uberx that is fighting with the taxi share of income. Gov can just ban private car app or regulate them to the same level as taxi to be fair, but now PR can drive private car also.

decent02 SG

Today start night shift late because I want to watch the 6.30pm tv news on the new regulations.
You observed the minister speech…is all about protecting commuters. Haha. YES TD pawned themselves. But can you blame prostitute? Got more incentive of course they open their legs wider for grab to penetrate . So how now. Deeds already done and no turning back. So I suggest now is the time for TD to screw back the taxi companies. You all realized there is no new regulations on fair fare pricing on 3rd party apps vs regular taxi fare. So should taxi companies reduce rental and gives TD more incentives? I am eager to see how taxi Co reacts. Of course govt cannot request apps to increase price or match taxi Co fare or else it will be call price fixing which is not allowed. TD screwed themselves once and now is time we screw the taxi Co. Reduce rental and reduce fare to make the field more of level play.

decent02 SG

I thought Grabtaxi are helping taxi drivers to get more income? Why angry taxi driver support them?

Very simple plan. Brilliant. Step 1. Make use of TD to gain client Base. Step 2. Base large enough. Step 3 Taxi biz not so good in making profit Step 4 Since got client Base then promote own pte car n driver fleet. Step 5 Easily control Juz use pricing to entice client Economy increase...tthese apps co will come back again and offer prostitute more incentive haha.. the cycle continues......

sg11 SG

Step 4 and 5 cannot happen if gov regulate everything to the same level as taxi, same fare level as taxi. Put in all the rules that taxi have to private car app then allow them to run, or else ban it. Like other countries have already banned uber.

decent02 SG

If you look closely at the bonus payment in 2014, it does not make sense. They make 30 cents per booking but end of the month gives you more than the money you made for them. So losing business. Of course there are TD whom did not meet the target and also generate income for them. So in the long run issit profitable for them? They must already has a plan to do something else in future once they meet certain objectives. TD who chiong for them did not realized their sinous plans.

Since TD cannot think for themselves then is important we have a union or association that really takes care of TD welfare. I dun see any now.

decent02 SG

Step 4 happened already. Step 5 is easy. If I got 100 client and 2 fleets of car say type A and Type B. I can easily shift my clients preference by using fare structuring.

mAdCaB SG

No la. Dont think too much. Best is kill off taxi trade and render these buggers jobless. Let them go be janitors or cardboard collectors.

peterpan212 SG

Is the regulator know wat they r doing.

Taxi can use 7 yrs. Private car 10 yrs.

Taxi company need to meet availability, booking, hotline, 250km, etc standard. Cannot meet kena fine.

Private car nobody care.

Tdvl 25 hrs. Pdvl 10 hrs.

Taxi for singaporean. Private car open to international.

Insurance taxi campany. Private car dont know who.

Maintainence taxi company. Private car who cares. Driver n pax problem. No incentive for private car to do proper maintence.

Like that who still want to operate taxi company can close shop slowly.

peterpan212 SG

Is the regulator know wat they r doing.

Taxi can use 7 yrs. Private car 10 yrs.

Taxi company need to meet availability, booking, hotline, 250km, etc standard. Cannot meet kena fine.

Private car nobody care.

Tdvl 25 hrs. Pdvl 10 hrs.

Taxi for singaporean. Private car open to international.

Insurance taxi campany. Private car dont know who.

Maintainence taxi company. Private car who cares. Driver n pax problem. No incentive for private car to do proper maintence.

8000- 10000 cars. Use 9000. 50% split between uber n grab. Avg each car contribute $200 fares per day.

20% of $200*4500 = $180k per day.

Like that who still want to operate taxi company can close shop slowly.

peterpan212 SG

Is the regulator know wat they r doing.

Taxi can use 7 yrs. Private car 10 yrs.

Taxi company need to meet availability, booking, hotline, 250km, etc standard. Cannot meet kena fine.

Private car nobody care.

Tdvl 25 hrs. Pdvl 10 hrs.

Taxi for singaporean. Private car open to international.

Insurance taxi campany. Private car dont know who care. Uber n grab car not responsible of insurance.

Maintainence taxi company. Private car who cares. Driver n pax problem. No incentive for private car to do proper maintence. Uber n grab also not responsible of maintence.

Taxi fares follow published rates private car fares can anyhow change cause got demand. can 乘火打劫。no regulation.

8000 - 10000 private car. Say 9000. Avg car per day $200 fares. 50% split between uber n grab car.

20% * $200 *4500= $180k per day or 5.4 million per month. Private car growing. More money can be see.

Very good money no neex to invest car just middle man.

Like that compare who still want to operate taxi company can close shop slowly.

It is obvious that the million dollar minister is killing the taxi industrial.

Worst is taxi company going downhill still keep quiet. Pls learn property developer. Kpkb.

decent02 SG

Taxi trades will definitely die.
But today surprisingly I follow mentor pool strategy.
11 trips in cbd…..not bad.
Work 3 and a half hours …. got $143.
Then drink beer …. close shop.

Taxilim88 SG

Taxi drivers not stupid lah..They know from day one the incentives won't last one. Grabtaxi oso not stupid.

1. Grab start with grabtaxi. Build up taxi drivers base with huge incentives and customer base with huge discounts. You need these two hands to clap.

2. Then slowly reduce incentives. They know some TDs will run road on them.

3. No need to build customer base again cos they already have grabtaxi customer base. Then introduce grabcar lor...the number of new grabcar drivers far exceeds the number of TDs lost.

4. Now got grabcar and grabtaxi. No need worry customer got no taxi or car.

5. Grab has merged the two booking platforms into one - grabtaxi and grabcar. it's called Flash. Seamless and more efficient use of available taxis or cars. Pax just press a flash button. The booking goes to both taxis and cars to bid. Grabtaxi and grabcar drivers go fight it out amongst yourselves.

Why they succeed? Cos taxi drivers are not united. Now they kpkb oso no use cos many are addicted to grab liao, esp non-CDG drivers.

magpi SG

I dun see much impact on the regulations on training but the backdoor to increasing pool of drivers may come from available foreign quotas for limo companies to hire PRs and work permit holders who should not be put off by the presence of car decals, and they are more hungry than TDs for pax, cheaper than TD's ride for pax, better responses than TDs and hence a boon for consumers.

magpi SG

A paradigm shift to change the way structured-taxi companies operated from simply renting and increase rents, managing demand and increasing fares?

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