What if taxi companies decides to take back half of their

last SG · 2013-10-24T11:53:38+00:00

I attend? even send limos to take me, I also reject, attend his birthday for fark? waste my time on the road driving taxis, limpeh one day $30 net only hor.I...

Diablo9898 SG

What's the motivation for ppl to become TDs?

1. Own boss, no need to see boss face to work.

2. Flexible working timings. You and you alone decide when you want to work.

3. The harder you work, the more you earn.

4. Take breaks as and when you like without any Cheng Hoo.

5. Taxi like own car, can be used to run own errands and fetch family members.

What's the motivation for taxi companies to just rent out taxis?

1. No human resource issues. Imagine employing 20,000 TDs. Got leave issues, MC issues, resignation issues, recruitment issues, fighting issues, TD idle issues, productivity issues, personal problem issues. The HR dept must be super big to handle all these issues. Additonal operations and staff costs.

2. Revenue collection. Now just collect rent thru' Giro. Everyday deduct on the dot. No pay, lock MDT. TD got drive anot oso dun care. With TD as employees, got to handle cash everyday from 20,000 TDs. Got to reconcile cash collection with number of trips. Got to deal with cheating cases by TDs. Finance dept must be super big to handle all these cash. Got to do audit every month. Additional operations and staff costs. 24 hrs a day, 365 days a year.

3. Additional revenue from selling fuel. Taxi Companies earn millions every year selling diesel to TDs. This income stream will be lost if TDs are employees.

4. Any complaint now, just interview TD. Not happy, pok TD. If TD employee, not so easy to pok. Can complain to MOM, Union, MP etc. More headache.

5. $30million of TDs deposit sitting in the bank earning interest nicely.

So you think leh?

Understood your points and agreed why ppl chose to be taxi drivers. My question is actually if taxi companies take back half of their taxi fleets and employ their own drivers to ply the road. Not take back all taxis and run their own business.

That's as good as enforcing the other half of the taxi fleet self employed driver to follow the rules and not to flout it.

I think if taxi companies take back just 10% of their taxi fleet and run by their own drivers, many if not all self employed drivers will kpkb

Diablo9898 SG

Not possible. If that happens. Our singapore taxi fleet will drop at leastby half.

Which taxi driver wants to be an employee?

Err.. what do you think of SBS or SMRT bus driver, if given a choice, do you think they wants to be employee instead of leasing own mini bus to drive?

As I mentioned, if income slightly higher than normal delivery driver.. My guess is that there will still be ppl willing to take up the jobs.

Taxilim88 SG

That's as good as enforcing the other half of the taxi fleet self employed driver to follow the rules and not to flout it.

I think if taxi companies take back just 10% of their taxi fleet and run by their own drivers, many if not all self employed drivers will kpkb

Comfort has 27,400 taxis. Take back half means 13,700 taxis. Must work two shifts means employ 27,400 drivers. My 20,000 TDs is actually a conservative estimate.

Take back 10% will not be able to improve any service level.

How to improve service level? If you take at least 8 bookings a day, you get 1 day free rental. For every compliment letter you receive from pax, you get 1 day free rental. Only whether taxi companies want to implement anot.

Diablo9898 SG

Comfort has 27,400 taxis. Take back half means 13,700 taxis. Must work two shifts means employ 27,400 drivers. My 20,000 TDs is actually a conservative estimate.

Take back 10% will not be able to improve any service level.

Service level will not be increased drastically but impact will be felt among TDs immediately.

I think we should have ard 100k TDVL holders right? and still increasing by the day..

347540427 SG

bro bowah u r right, look at Punggol East By-E ; to prepare for 2016..HDB started to say it made losses...haha all the way to 2016..meanwhile u still need to buy at sky high prices HDB new flats with smaller n smaller room sizes...= (just enough to park a sloon car) ....

Terry Young SG

IF taxi co decide to become employer then they just need to think of...

the smrt china bus driver issue.

end of story.

So many decade no strike.

then get FT.

1st strike.

And definitely not the end cos we open the pandora box.

Diablo9898 SG

Do you tknow hat they can just use many reasons to create employment for TD with foreigner participation and even the public will support them.

Bo taxis, call and call also dun hv, 500 taxis reject pax, or even much more, cos some never reported..wait for 1 hr also no taxis, rainy also no taxis, before peak, also no taxis?? I believe you and me would had seen such comments posted and spread on our most of the papers and social media.

And if taxi companies want to further it, they themselve can add salt and pepper to deeper the wound so as to get employment and foreigners into Taxi trade.

And do you think they are not pushing for it under close door meeting? However, luckily LTA is holding them back due to the backdrop of politics, if taxi trade is to open up to employement that indirectly attract PRs and foreigners like bees, 2016 is going to be a difficult year of the MIW hor. There are 100 thousands over locals holding TDVL, +family members, 1/2 million vote can be gone

Agreed. But like what you mentioned, it's can be about control. But IMHO, LTA prefer to make taxi driving to be a more respected professional, a better image (for themselves) and encourage/educate future taxi drivers to be more professional in this aspect (even though it's going to take a long time), therefore maybe they can just use 10% of their taxi fleet to test water.

Not necessary for FTs but still mainly for locals. Property agents in my opionion, had changed a lot..

They are going to suffer slight dip in 2016 results anyway. We knew opposition can't really do much but still we want them, cause of they can counter check and balance and garberment might not be like before anymore where they can suka suka do their way.

Diablo9898 SG

IF taxi co decide to become employer then they just need to think of...

the smrt china bus driver issue.

end of story.

So many decade no strike.

then get FT.

1st strike.

And definitely not the end cos we open the pandora box.

For locals, might not necessary for FTs.

They would definately learnt from this experience.

Taxilim88 SG

If bring FT in to drive taxi, many S'poreans no job liao..

Nowadays,ppl go see MP to ask for help in finding a job. First reply from MP is : "Why don't you consider driving taxis?"

Many ppl queueing up to rent taxi. Bring in FT for fark? Bus drivers, for many years, hard to find S'porean to take up this job because must wake up 4am and start work at 5am. One week work morning, one week work night, one week work split shift. Very bad for health.

Taxilim88 SG

For locals, might not necessary for FTs.

They would definately learnt from this experience.

Very soon, the 10% local employed TDs will join the other 90% self employed TDs.

Diablo9898 SG

If bring FT in to drive taxi, many S'poreans no job liao..

Nowadays,ppl go see MP to ask for help in finding a job. First reply from MP is : "Why don't you consider driving taxis?"

Agreed. But again not mainly for FTs, or put it this way. Not for FTs at all but only locals.

full time employment for 10% of taxi fleets (maybe cumfxxx) and control the balance. Maybe need 3 shifts (8 hrs ea)? So ard 20k jobs created?

Anyway, I'm not from LTA hor, just wanna hear your views only.. Don't dulan me hor..

Diablo9898 SG

Very soon, the 10% local employed TDs will join the other 90% self employed TDs.

you think so? Without having to worry about rental? and still have some (maybe just some) benefits? with an average of maybe $1500 - $1700?

Of course, I personally won't take it, but still there are some ppl out there perhaps working as storekeeper with income of ard $1200-$1300 who might take the bite.

Of course, they have to consider the CPF portion lah... Then they can increase their fare lor... Some paxs mentioned they don't mind paying more so long as there are cabs for them..

getcarter SG

gd discussion

I also strongly believe tat the time will come when PRs/foreigners take over taxi trade,like bowah said u never know what's going on behind close doors

next time take cab pay by card liao like mrt/buses,how many still use cash to pay? all cabs install gps/cam so td just key in nia,everything computerised

setting up dormitories blah blah not a big deal,can be done one,worried abt fall in votes? no prob tds don't make up the majority category

matter of time paxs will adjust to the changes.anything is possible la so pls enjoy while u still got the chance,next time bo liao hor

Samsun SG

wat is stopping the govt from using non-SC for TDs?

can change legislations anytime mah. they always have good reasons.

getcarter SG

wat is stopping the govt from using non-SC for TDs?

can change legislations anytime mah. they always have good reasons.

spot on! you're very right

most to most we kpkb nia after tat life still goes on

"adaptation" will be the key word in future

M the name SG

When that happen, former taxi drivers can still start an concierge business : http://www.startaconciergebusiness.com

Taxilim88 SG

Most pax do not have very high expectations of TD service level:

1. Just bring from Point A to Point B safely. Go shortest route unless pax prefer another route.

2. Just drive. If pax want to talk, then TD can chat. Otherwise, keep quiet and just drive.

3. If make mistake and pax not happy, just apologise and drive on.

4. If pax guai lan, just keep quiet and drive on. Lun 20 mins nia.

So difficult to achieve meh? Then must bring in FT to improve service level?

Knn, some TDs must chut all kinds of pattern, scold pax, point finger, shout, fight. For what?

But, one thing I dun understand is. When cannot get cab or wait long long at taxi queue, why complain and blame TDs? Lazy lah, choosy lah blah blah...

When go see doctor in polyclinic, wait 1 hour, why neber complain?

When go ICA collect passport, wait 2 hours, why neber complain?

When go Malaysia,kena stuck at causeway for 3 hours, why neber complain?

When go and see MP at the MPS, wait 4 hours, why neber complain? Sometimes get to see MP kah kia oni.

Keepthechange666 SG

I also want to join.

Dang dang....

Dang me becum TD Manager liao, I kelong you all in....

Keepthechange666 SG

During YOG last time, we can say we are consider "employed" staff to met YOG transport requirement.....

Than for a short period of time, you already can see many pattern from different TD....

I still can remember, 1st day of reporting, already got 1 TD tio pok, reason, using YOG vehicle to pick up his own customers.....

Than we also can see, keng TD, jiak snake TD, hardworking TD, siao on TD (like me).....

Everybody was paid equally for the whole duration of YOG.....

So if coy next time want to start with employment of TD, I can be their CON-sultants.....

DriverDriver SG

i pick one lady pax. she said Singaporean Men only good for 3 things..

One. Drive Taxi

Two. Join Hawker Training Programme

Three. Become Unemployed Statistics

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