I, a Singaporean Chinese refuse to speak English

last SG · 2010-05-04T16:49:54+00:00

there shouldn't be any government policies in the first place to curb this or that languagelanguage should be left on their own to grow and developbut the si...

Clivebenss SG

half baked chinese and dialects, half farked english

2 halves =/= 1.

Samuel Lee SG

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我是讲的中国人中国新加坡人。我读这个论坛并且看有些新加坡人(duh)和I can' t了解汉语的有些新加坡人为什么说事例如" 因为我们不容纳PRCs"， MRT不应该显示中国牌; " 英语是我们的language" 等. 让我表明一些点。

1. 虽然我是新加坡人，从中国的不是汉语。我从未是到中国。然而我的在我的出生证(BC/NRIC)的种族汉语。 BC有汉语在种族专栏的人知道您的姓氏是什么和它是同样从从中国的人民。

2. 我，象所有新加坡人，在有英语的学校长大作为我们的第一种语言。然而，我在家只使用汉语和甚而许多次在工作(学校)从一个Singapore' s四官方语言是汉语。许多我们法律，报纸和一切别的东西也是全部可利用用中文(马来语和泰米尔语也有，然而，一个有一点较少程度，当与汉语比较，大概由于 population' s比例)。多少人民实际上通过他们的英国出色地/A星分别与他们自己的母语比较了？我don' t了解在这样环境之下，某些人民为什么仍然拒绝使用他们自己的母语并且讲英语。

3. 英语不是Singapore' s语言。有些新加坡人废弃物英语作为" 外国language" 英国的语言和美国人等和说那作为" Chinese" 我们应该讲普通话，我们的祖先语言，我们的" roots"。这是事实。 Don' t忘记我们的国歌是唱歌在马来语，并且我们的承诺也是可利用的在4种语言(马来语、汉语和泰米尔语)。猜测在中国中等学校的什么，在尚早(20世纪60年代~ 70s)，如果任何人有他们的父母(华校)学习将知道什么我意味。 (但是我不是从那个世代) 英语仍然是一种外语对新加坡人，因为您的姓氏很可能得到了中国背景，或者马来人或者泰米尔人姓。

4. 我认为新加坡人应该是确切他们是新加坡人分开马来人，他们有祖先(祖父母或曾祖父)一次大概是中国公民，或者印第安公民。为马来人，他们可能有一次是他们的祖先马来西亚公民…. 那么等等。我说，当Singlish是好和独特的新加坡人时，但是那不是可接受的为工作/正式目的。很可能它是同样"的; Geordie" 或者" 苏格兰English" 甚至" 威尔士English" 在这个方面。

5. 尽管普通话不甚而我的祖先语言，如果您想要是肛门的对此，并且普通话是北京方言，并且我的祖先大概是从福建，但是我们的环境允许我们独自地学会各自方言例如Hokkien和Teochew ？在中华人民共和国，当局也鼓励使用普通话。

6. 普通话是有用的？当然! 让不忘记中国和欧洲人/美国的秋天的上升使它成为可能。除非一个人在圣经/圣洁材料，研究象拉丁不现在曾经是有用的和。第二大和期望接管是第一大经济在2050年在世界上，中国之前，使用汉语。许多欧洲人和美国人开始学会& 那些日子讲中文为了保持趋向。

7. 让不忘记原因为什么我们的" forefathers" 跑了远离中国/印度等占去了" 新加坡citizenship" 为原因。那是，因为他们的国家被用于在极端贫穷/战争strucken家园。新加坡，另一只手的，被用于实践自由移民政策。不因此它真正地占去新加坡公民身份。因此don' t在新加坡(一个多种族社会)告诉我讲英语(一种外语)。

8 ：我现今拒绝使用英国个人计算机。所有我的软件， Windows，办公室，视觉演播室(我是我的一位程序员它路线)是对英国软件的全部用中文和用途只完全是根本软件没有汉语版本。

9 ：许多老年人，特别是从更旧的庄园，仍然使用他们的方言例如Hokkien，不甚而普通话。它不可能英语，并且这些是请求的人民当局设定更加中国的牌/公告在MRT驻地的等。如果您can' t在新加坡讲您自己的母语，我建议您吊您的在羞辱的头，为了您真实地有" 丢失了您的roots"。

搞笑啦，等我有空再去改改。（这个大意，我不如看英文版，因为原意有点被曲解了。）

Ranson SG

But if I don't have ITE or PSLE, wouldn't it make you look even more idiotic?

You don't even have PSLE ?

Bus&Soccer l0v3r (VO3x 1) SG

wtf

one dun wan speak chinese

now english

ltr dun tell mi two of tis also dun speak

TIB1234T SG

wtf

one dun wan speak chinese

now english

ltr dun tell mi two of tis also dun speak

then speak Singlish lor.....hor.....

fudgester SG

Crap lah.... where are all these stupid threads coming from? Is it the school holidays already? No, right?

I'm not even going to bother responding to this nonsense....

One facepalm ain't gonna cut it, so.....

Samuel Lee SG

Crap lah.... where are all these stupid threads coming from? Is it the school holidays already? No, right?

I'm not even going to bother responding to this nonsense....

One facepalm ain't gonna cut it, so.....

TIB1234T SG

the hand chopped off....ouch...

fudgester SG

Yeah, you're right. I was wrong.

Even double facepalm didn't do enough justice for this thread.

udontknowme SG

the problem is our english also sucks lol. how many people can pronounce these words correctly. eileen, salmon, gurkhas, almond etc etc.

correct according to who?

Obama? the queen of england? stephen harper? Lee kwan yew? you sure they'll pronounce all these words the same way?

the Bear SG

frankly, no one gives a shit whether you speak, spit or vomit any language...

no one cares...

HyperionDCZ SG

while i am completely sympathetic to your ideas, the fact remains that english is the language of globalisation and it will stay that way for centuries. If you had typed this entire post in mandarin, you'd probably get a total of 3 replies and that demonstrates the futility of your endeavour

9808_76 SG

Wow! Ranson, your skin is really thick - comparable to elephants! Not only you're totally unabashed to flaunt your narrow-mindedness when it comes to the Chinese language, you have the audacity to bulldoze others, calling others "idiot", and the like, where the very same adjectives would have suited impeccably on yourself.

Let's see. Have you been struggling with Chinese since young? Have you been ridiculed by your Chinese teacher and your peers? Got so exasperated with Chinese that you desperately needed to vent your frustration by making a senseless tirade to make it seemed like - oh, my Chinese is bad but (because I want to save face), I want it to be lousy intentionally. Never mind. You can continue trumpeting your own warped ideologies on this virtual space; any person of some intellect (not you perhaps) would be able to dismiss your whole chunk of tirade as a whining post by some loser.

I shan't even do a point-by-point refutation because I know you are so devoid of any thought process. Poor thing..

Swallow this statement down your stinky and grubby throat - your English is mediocre at best; coupled with presumably, your wonderful Chinese, I think you'd better STFU lest you corrupt others with your waffle.

Effie chuang SG

Think Samuel Lee made a good point about English not being Singapore's language; it is the international language that we adopted to survive. English is the dominant language because of the pre-eminence of the west, led initially by England which started the industrial revolution. Western culture (led by USA) thus dominated the world.

At the same period, over centuries, the Chinese were massacred by the Manchus, then by the Japanese and bullied by the west. The sufferings and spiritual torment endured by the Chinese people, the scale and intensity of which the west, USA and Europe, have probably never experienced. Only the Jews have ever endured sufferings on this massive scale. Those repeated invasions and massacres (including destruction of literature etc) wiped out progress in many areas the Chinese made over thousands of years.

Chinese, no matter what passports they hold, are still "hua xia min zu". The westerners will never see a Chinese (even if he speaks Queen's English) as one of them. In their eyes, a Chinese will always be a Chink, even if he kisses the American ass everyday.

I remember,after so many years, what my primary school Chinese teacher once said to us in class (that was when China was still relatively backward):- "the whole world may look down on the Chinese, but you can't, because you too are Chinese."

Louis888 SG

What about those who are not Chinese and whose Mother Tongue is not Chinese and they are also Singaporeans?

This is one of the deep fault lines that our government is talking about.

Chinese chauvinism!

Just because you all Chinese form 75 percent of the population does not give you the right to impose your view on others.

You hate English is just too bad but keep you chauvinistic and prejudicial attitudes and perceptions to yourself!

Bus&Soccer l0v3r (VO3x 1) SG

then speak Singlish lor.....hor.....

should learn from Ip Man

我 zhi shi yi ge 中国人

Rock^Star SG

it's a forum la...let pple speak their minds. There are many sgporeans who dun like to speak their mother tongue. Some feel embarassed to speak chinese. Haha, life goes on, who cares.

Samuel Lee SG

What about those who are not Chinese and whose Mother Tongue is not Chinese and they are also Singaporeans?

This is one of the deep fault lines that our government is talking about.

Chinese chauvinism!

Just because you all Chinese form 75 percent of the population does not give you the right to impose your view on others.

You hate English is just too bad but keep you chauvinistic and prejudicial attitudes and perceptions to yourself!

For that, they should stick their mother tongue like Malay or Tamil. In the case that they are truly PR / Citizens from US / UK, then they are ought to love English. You did not read my full post correctly!!!

For other exceptional case of Singaporean who has a mother tongue of Japanese, then they should use Japanese well and as far as possible.

Such simple logic you cannot understand? WTF!

Moka SG

Langauge is a vessel to deliver what one are thinking to the other party effective. By stubbornly sticking to preferred language, it's akin to chopping off your left hand.

what can you achieve at the end of the day by sticking firmly to one language? you lost the ability to appreciate other languages

mh2 SG

for once i hold my speech.

becos i thought knowledge come with grey hair and wisdom with old age.

but until all people had say their want, i too will tell you what i think in this open forum.

i consider myself a singaporean FIRST, then a chinese. not becos im loyal to sg. but becos i live in this country.

1. Why we must speak the fucking mandarin. we should speak our own dialect to be truly ourself, not influence by other language. Mandarin is derived from the north china speech. and our ancestor dun usually come from there yes? mine is not btw.

2. i prefer english only. becos that is what make singapore work right now, i dun live in the past and think about what if PAP did not reign, mandarin is made the sole official langauge in sg something like that..

3. like someone say, where you wanna trace your root? you can trace it all the way to Adam( the first man) or monkey if you wanted. spare me the crap.

4. talk about in the 1800 1900 years, many country bullied china. yes. that is the harsh true. it is political game among the country. so when all these country look down on chinese on the whole, please know that that is their problem. not the chinese problem.as a person, u need to live up to your own conviction, not becos of you skin color can bring your any advantage in life or not. but if you think your skin color inherit certain superiority against the other race, it is your thinking and choice. but we all know that skin color dun mean a thing dun we?

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