Why haram?

Honeybunz SG · 2006-06-10T21:24:20+00:00

would prophet muhammad forbid something if its not in the quran though ?

Honeybunz SG

Why are frogs haram?

I know Muslims don't eat frog leg porridge one.

What's the theory behind this?

felirox SG

From wad i know..Islam forbids muslims eat animals that live both in land and water..

mhcampboy SG

heard abt tat too..

Honeybunz SG

I heard about that also.

But dunno what's the teaching behind this.

Anybody?

Master -_- SG

where got forbid..like that crab also cannot eat ah.. Shocked Shocked

effectively, we do not eat animals that stand on top of the food chain...namely those killer preys... it's forbidden...frogs generally lie at the top coz they feed on flies and other insects...

fudgester SG

There is a hadith which states that frogs are considered as haram.

Truth be told, it's a matter of debate among Muslim jurists about whether or not the concept of 'two worlds' applies all types of animals which can live on both land and water. Some are of the opinion that crabs and lobsters fall under this category and are not allowed, while others say that they are permissible.

The general consensus among Islamic scholars seems to be that amphibians (turtles, frogs, etc) are definitely not allowed, while other types of seafood such as crabs and lobsters are subject to debate.

Maybe this article will shed light on the debate that Islamic scholars are having over this issue: http://www.ifanca.org/newsletter/2002_09.htm

dragg SG

complicated.

laurence82 SG

Can also explain haram and halal?

I know they got differences, but cant find articles on it.

Master -_- SG

the amphibians thing is misunderstood…nobody gives that rationale anymore…

fudgester SG

It's pretty complex to explain everything in one single reply.

There's a previous thread on this:

http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=172028

And when you're in doubt, wikipedia is your friend Wink :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haraam

SBS9828X SG

in another words, makruh

Honeybunz SG

Originally posted by fudgester:
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The general consensus among Islamic scholars seems to be that amphibians (turtles, frogs, etc) are definitely not allowed, ]

Care to elaborate on this? (any quote from Quran etc)

Just trying to have better understanding of Islam and Muslims.

Honeybunz SG

Jews also dun eat pork and lard.

Can we assume that Kosher food = Halal?

skeujin SG

yes they r similar

fudgester SG

Not quite.

While Judaism has similar (in some ways, even stricter) dietary laws than Islam, kosher is not necessarily equal to halal and vice versa. For example, in Islam, alcohol is forbidden, while in Judaism, it is allowed.

Likewise, in Judaism, meat and dairy products can't be mixed (no cheeseburgers and tandoori chicken), while Islam has no such ruling.

The consensus is that food certified kosher may be consumed in the absence of halal food. Of course, if halal food is available, then it has to be consumed first.

saline SG

Snakes eat frogs leh.... so i guess frogs are not at the top of the food chain.

mhcampboy SG

Now. I think I know about crabs/seafood in general.

In the Hadith or sumtin Embarassed The Prophet or God, either one la ok,

said that,

The abundant of living creatures in the sea is a gift of food for you SEAFARERS. **this is not the original statement la. but its something like this**

So that will explain also why fishes need not be sacrifice or slaugthered unlike those land animals, cows, chickens, lambs etc etc....

Master -_- SG

around the top la.. like that so many animals eat frogs wat Laughing

Master -_- SG

wahahha Ustadz sia Laughing

SBS9828X SG

they dont have necks Laughing