The Rat Race

last SG · 2010-04-20T00:08:37+00:00

but can we still bring the bread back home to the family at the end of the day if we choose to follow our dreams?it's a trade off.when u've nothing to worry...

the_fallen SG

That's the case when you first start a business. And it could remain the case for the first 10 years.

i beg to differ..

that's only when you start a business without any proper mentor nor coaching who can direct you to the shortest route to success possible.

the_fallen SG

very common man... asking u repot to work from like 11am to 10pm.

to make things worst... its 6 day per week..

2k and/or lesser.. but have comission if u can hit target...but v hard. tried for 2 mths during my sch break.. n i say those who stay there for years must be really UP..

crazy ~

so your UP refers to they can take up the challenge and you respect them for it?

or you think they are crazy to take up such a low paying job?

or others?

how about share some of your views?

eagle SG

i beg to differ..

that's only when you start a business without any proper mentor nor coaching who can direct you to the shortest route to success possible.

I have said enough. Believe a not is up to you.

You can continue in your belief that you don't need to work hard, but can take short cuts to become a business owner just like that. Just like I mention in another thread, your life, your choice. Doesn't bother me.

Good luck though.

wee_ws SG

Hi,

You can always come out of the rat race and lead a life you desire, if you wish to consider a path that is less taken. Think very carefully what that path may be and stay open to opportunities that may lead you to the path. Be with positive people often, to counter negativity. Happiness is a state of mind, so you can become happy now, without any conditions. You just want to be happy, rather than you need this or that to be happy.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Wen Shih

eagle SG

Sharing this taken from the last few pages of the book The Richest Man in Babylon:

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"Work, thou see, by this, in the time of my greatest distress, didst prove to be my best friend. My willingness to work enabled me to escape from being sold to join the slave gangs upon the walls. It also so impressed thy grandfather, he selected me for his partner."

Then Hadan Gula questioned, "Was work my grandfather's secret key to the golden shekels?"

"It was the only key he had when I first knew him," Sharru Nada replied. "Thy grandfather enjoyed working. The Gods appreciated his efforts and rewarded him liberally."

"I begin to see," Hadan Gula was speaking thoughtfully. "Work attracted his many friends who admired his industry and the success it brought. Work brought him the honors he enjoyed so much in Damascus. Work brought him all those things I have approved. And I thought work was fit only for slaves."

"Life is rich with many pleasures for men to enjoy," Sharru Nada commented. "Each has its place. I am glad that work is not reserved for slaves. Were that the case I would be deprived of my greatest pleasure. Many things do I enjoy but nothing takes the place of work."

Sharru Nada and Hadan Gula rode in the shadows of the towering walls up to the massive, bronze gates of Babylon. At their approach the gate guards jumped to attention and respectfully saluted an honored citizen. With head held high Sharru Nada led the long caravan through the gates and up the streets of the city.

"I have always hoped to be a man like my grandfather," Hadan Gula confided to him. "Never before did I realize just what kind of man he was. This thou hast shown me. Now that I understand, I do admire him all the more and feel more determined to be like him. I fear I can never repay thee for giving me the true key to his success. From this day forth, I shall use his key. I shall start humbly as he started, which befits my true station far better than jewels and fine robes."

the_fallen SG

Sharing this taken from the last few pages of the book The Richest Man in Babylon:

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I don't exactly understand the moral of the story.

A little help with explaining what's the story or what you take away from this?

the_fallen SG

Hi,

Thanks.

Cheers,
Wen Shih

Being happy is a state of mind, which requires both family and yourself to be happy and contented..which food and a shelter over the head isn't it?

eagle SG

I don't exactly understand the moral of the story.

A little help with explaining what's the story or what you take away from this?

Why don't I direct you to the whole book? The copyright is already finished since it was written so long ago.

http://www.bizbuildersusa.org/files/theRichestManInBabylon.pdf

The moral of the story is, hard work is a must. I admit I didn't post the whole story, so probably it wasn't very clear...

It's a damn good read... trust me... I read it 3 times already...

charlize SG

Lol..

So are you gonna keep on letting yourself be on the bbq stick and get roasted over and over again til your skin turn black from overburnt?

Times are bad.

wee_ws SG

Being happy is a state of mind, which requires both family and yourself to be happy and contented..which food and a shelter over the head isn't it?

Hi,

If we live good, happy lives, the times and situations are also good and happy. As we are, such are the times and situations. -- Adapted from St. Augustine

Thanks.

Cheers,
Wen Shih

the_fallen SG

Why don't I direct you to the whole book? The copyright is already finished since it was written so long ago.

http://www.bizbuildersusa.org/files/theRichestManInBabylon.pdf

The moral of the story is, hard work is a must. I admit I didn't post the whole story, so probably it wasn't very clear...

It's a damn good read... trust me... I read it 3 times already...

please leh, 72 pages...words so small..i'm not going to waste my time reading those tiny words...

The conclusion/moral of the story is very blurly to me..

because out of the sudden, you posted that..which i cannot link up with Rat Race..

Nonetheless, hard work is required in everything..that's a general knowledge..

the_fallen SG

Times are bad.

Lets just face it..

Regardless of it being good or bad times..people in the rat race are being roasted again and again..

Good times..competition for higher productivity = more workload..same pay + competition from foreign talents; either accept the pay or get out..

Bad times...competition to retain only job =more workload.. less pay + increasing inflation and cost of living.

Isn't it what's happening at work?

the_fallen SG

Hi,

If we live good, happy lives, the times and situations are also good and happy. As we are, such are the times and situations. -- Adapted from St. Augustine

Thanks.

Cheers,
Wen Shih

Live good?

referring to what?

the state of mind, material needs or contented with what we have and don't harbor for more wealth that kind?

eagle SG

please leh, 72 pages...words so small..i'm not going to waste my time reading those tiny words...

The conclusion/moral of the story is very blurly to me..

because out of the sudden, you posted that..which i cannot link up with Rat Race..

Nonetheless, hard work is required in everything..that's a general knowledge..

Pls lah, the words are so big. It is in a pdf; you can zoom anytime you want.

And mere 72 pages of one of the world's most famous book on personal finance... you tell me it's a waste of time to read? YET you tell me hard work is required.

Wow.

And now you tell me hard work is required in everything, yet... you are the one who said this:

So by firing yourself, you no longer work, and have people working for you. You aren't in the rat race, able to free yourself to invest and hire more people to work for you and grow your money keeping the net profit after paying all expenses and liability.

Make you up mind la. You are seriously confused.

the_fallen SG

Pls lah, the words are so big. It is in a pdf; you can zoom anytime you want.

And mere 72 pages of one of the world's most famous book on personal finance... you tell me it's a waste of time to read? YET you tell me hard work is required.

Wow.

And now you tell me hard work is required in everything, yet... you are the one who said this:

Make you up mind la. You are seriously confused.

Making money is simple.

You don't need to understand advance formula to be rich, simple plus minus divide and multiplication and basic accounting knowledge will do.

Are all business owners (enterpreneurs) holding PHDs or are they hiring the people to work for them?

77th Street Entrepreneur is a ITE graduate and she has done ITE proud without degrees or even diplomas.

You than is confused with all those unncessary fomulas and knowledge.

To be rich, we just need to understand the basic money management principles on how to maximize our profits and nothing more.

Real hands on experiences beats academic studies in some ways for businesses.

^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~ SG

Making money is simple.

You don't need to understand advance formula to be rich, simple plus minus divide and multiplication and basic accounting knowledge will do.

Are all business owners (enterpreneurs) holding PHDs or are they hiring the people to work for them?

77th Street Entrepreneur is a ITE graduate and she has done ITE proud without degrees or even diplomas.

You than is confused with all those unncessary fomulas and knowledge.

To be rich, we just need to understand the basic money management principles on how to maximize our profits and nothing more.

Real hands on experiences beats academic studies in some ways for businesses.

wat happened to working hard

eagle SG

Making money is simple.

You don't need to understand advance formula to be rich, simple plus minus divide and multiplication and basic accounting knowledge will do.

Are all business owners (enterpreneurs) holding PHDs or are they hiring the people to work for them?

77th Street Entrepreneur is a ITE graduate and she has done ITE proud without degrees or even diplomas.

You than is confused with all those unncessary fomulas and knowledge.

To be rich, we just need to understand the basic money management principles on how to maximize our profits and nothing more.

Real hands on experiences beats academic studies in some ways for businesses.

Aiyah, you happy can liao.

When you take isolated examples as support for your points, you are already getting confused and falling into your own trap.

There's a reason why such examples are only 1 out of many.

When you have your own success, then you can talk big.

eagle SG

wat happened to working hard

Now you know why I said he's confused

the_fallen SG

wat happened to working hard

working hard is the element that is a must..

without hardwork in running the business in gaining first hand experience.

the_fallen SG

Aiyah, you happy can liao.

When you take isolated examples as support for your points, you are already getting confused and falling into your own trap.

There's a reason why such examples are only 1 out of many.

When you have your own success, then you can talk big.

it is not an isloated example..

look at bengawansolo..the pioneer grandmother by now who have handed the business to the next generation..last time featured in channel newsasia..

she started the business from selling cakes baking them in the kitchen..correct me if i'm wrong in any details.

simple accounting..and work super hard at selling your products and services

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