Originally posted by Gazelle:
When I say Mclaren has yet to win any [b]silverware for
the past 8 years, do you have reason to believe that I was refering
to only GP win? 
My definition of silverware is refering to the top prize not GP
silverwares.. 
Renault begin their F1 as a in 1977 and the team disfunction in
1983, after which they have just been engine supplier until year
2001.
Not so long ago someone has even deny that Mclaren wasnt in any
sort of trouble and still believe that Kimi will be driving the
silver car next year and the mclaren will still be challenging the
WDC and WCC this year. 
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weak arguments and inconsistancies in your statement is of no
use here.
1stly, We all know that Silverware as used in the racing community
refers to trophy pieces, which denotes not even just wins, but
podium places as well. You trying to argue otherwise, is
useless.
2ndly, you did NOT say 8 years, u said 9. Either way, even IF
silverware had meant what u think it to mean, you'd still have been
incorrect because u said 9, which is wrong.
As for what u're trying to say about Renault, I have no idea.
You're not even coherent.
Don't
need to come here and babble so many useless "facts" to me. Until
the end of the year, anything can happen, and what I think will
happen is a matter of opinion, of which there is no "right"
opinion. However, u can't even get your facts, things which have
already happened and are indisputabe, right. So dun come n talk
nonsense.
Besides, u want to talk about inaccurate opinions? I might think
Kimi will stay next year but at least im not as absurd to think BMW
is closing on McLaren in any way. 